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Re: Democracy on the dragon's doorstep

by bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mar 11, 2008 at 03:45 PM

On Mar 11, 3:10=A0pm, "J.Venning" <J.Venn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> bmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
>
news:b5bb7e33-85da-4de2-b2b3-daec141f6938@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I=
 was not touting democracy to the Chinese people, but rather noting
> >that there is interest in democracy among the younger generation of
> >Chinese, seemingly moreso than among the older generation.
>
> =A0 =A0 Some young people are very gullible to anything that is anti
> authoritarian, and they want to experiment, but governments are not
> something with which to experiment. One can't simply say, "Oops, didn't
> work, did it?" The Chinese government knows which direction to take for
th=
e
> good of the majority, whether you or anyone else may say otherwise, and
th=
ey
> will stick to it.

The Chinese government like any organization will make good decisions
and bad bad decisions. No one can be counted on to always make the
right decision. That said, I think they have done alright.

>
> >Obviously Taiwan and China are very different cases and the evolution
> >of democracy in China will probably happen very differently. But as
> >the only real democracy currently existing in "Greater China" the
> >Taiwanese model is certain something that young Chinese are
> >noticing.
>
> =A0 =A0 Let them notice. That is a sign that the Chinese authorities are
n=
ot
> censuring the Internet or the press the way Western media have been
> re****ting.

To a degree, yes. But there is certainly a great deal of control of
the media and the internet.

> >This isn't about American democracy, it's about how the next
> >generation of Chinese perceive and feel about democracy and what it
> >might mean for China.
>
> =A0 =A0 Which other brand of Democracy are you selling?

I'm not selling anything. I'm observing the reaction as re****ted by
the Asia Times of the mainland Chinese to the elections in Taiwan.

> >But I didn't understand that bit about why I don't run for US
> >president...
>
> =A0 =A0 I have overestimated you.

You said

"I can just as well ask you why you don't run for the U.S. Presidency,
if you
question why China doesn't adopt the American system of Democracy."

I did not question why China doesn't adapt American democracy - in
fact I have said many times that China will do things its way at its
own rate. But even if I did, what does that have to do with me running
for president? I am an intelligent person but the connection between
the two is not clear. Maybe you meant something along the lines of
America shouldn't interfere in China's business and vice-versa, but
that's not obvious to me from your words.
 




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Re: Democracy on the dragon's doorstep
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-11 15:45:17 
Re: Democracy on the dragon's doorstep
"J.Venning" <  2008-03-12 09:29:47 

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