On Mar 13, 3:40=A0pm, "OM ****VA!108" <grimus...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mar 13, 8:32 pm, bmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Mar 13, 11:56 am, "ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Mar 13, 1:33 pm, "OM ****VA!108" <grimus...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On Mar 13, 6:07 pm, "ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > On Mar 13, 6:34 am, gerberk <greatb...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > Calling people names in ng's isn't going to further your or
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> > > > > > buddies' cause. It only makes you part of the moronic babble
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> > > > > > infests ng's. If you think thatTibetshould be independent from
> > > > > > China, you should present your case with facts, references and
> > > > > > historical notes. Otherwise people will only treat you like a
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> > > > > > troll.
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> > > > > Bascially, these guys have no valid cause.
> > > > > The pro-Tibetan movement is racist in nature.
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> > > > > The Tibet independence movement is basically a racist movement
> > > > > comparable to the white supremacist movement.
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> > > > > 1. Both Tibetan movements and America white supremacist movement
> > > > > are supremacist movement recasted as racial survival. Central to
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> > > > > movements are "spiritual people" attempting to preserve their
> > > > > spiritual
> > > > > identity.
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> > > > > Free America sup****ters (aka white supremacists) see the
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> > > > > issue as "the subjugation and eventual destruction of God's
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> > > > > people, white Israel." Similarly, Tibetan supremacist feeling is
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> > > > > carefully
> > > > > disguised under Tibetan spirituality. And the line of reasoning
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> > > > > something
> > > > > like this. Since the Tibetans are from a culture of
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> > > > > Tibetans
> > > > > must not be contaminated by non-tibetans such as Han Chinese.
> > > > > Economic
> > > > > development and effort to improve Tibetan lives are often
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> > > > > as
> > > > > cultural genocide.
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> > > > > 2. In reality both are based on racism. Free America sup****ters
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> > > > > White supremacists) are racism against all colored people in the
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> > > > > Free Tibet sup****ters are racism against non-Tibetan Chinese.
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> > > > > supremacist racism is well known. How about Free Tibet?
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> > > > > The following is how an award winning essay described the
Chinese
> > > > > people. What is very very Chinese?
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> > > > >http://www.savetibet.org/programs/lotessay/2002/2ndplacea.php
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> > > > > "This is because the near ones have an absolutely different set
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> > > > > thoughts that are so un-Tibetan but very, very Chinese. The
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> > > > > feelings lack the human touch, the human quality, the caring
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> > > > > the loving heart and every thing that is gentle. They are like
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> > > > > robots with no human feelings."
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> > > > > > On Mar 13, 10:07 am, "TFK" <tfkmjk6...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > Imperialist running dog
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> > > > > > > "J.Venning" <J.Venn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > >news:47d812af$0$15873$edfadb0f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > > "OM ****VA!108" <grimus...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>news:569e49eb-a4ce-4b19-99d3-7d3835f1e174@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >> Oh shut up - if you really don't know please go away and
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> > > > > > > >> reading, if you are taking the piss then stop. Genocide
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> > > > > > > >> inTibetand all right thinking people should sup****t
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> > > > > > > >> sovereignty, which is what the people want.
> > > > > > > >> TIBETAN TRIBAL SOVEREIGNTY!
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> > > > > > > > =A0 =A0So, anyone who doesn't agree with you should shut
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Is that it? That
> > > > > > > > must be your Tibetan philosophy, which no one
wants!Tibetis =
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> > > > > > > > China, and will forever remain so.
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> > > > Get it right - the Tibetan sovereignty cause is righteous and the
> > > > suppression of Tibetan identity by the colonialist chinese state
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> > > > racism.
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> > > What sovereignty?
> > > When was Tibet an international recognized independent political
> > > unit the last time?
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> > > Sorry to inform you that international boundary is a matter of
> > > international recognition. There is no god to devine whch piece
> > > of land for what people, to owe and to hold forever and ever.
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> > > At present Tibet is recognized as part of China. If non-Chinese
> > > has problem, they should complain to their government first and
> > > foremost.
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> > > Read the following again. It was written by one. But it would not
> > > chosen as a winner if it did not represents the thought of many
> > > Tibetan exiles.
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> > >http://www.savetibet.org/programs/lotessay/2002/2ndplacea.php
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> > > "This is because the near ones have an absolutely different set of
> > > thoughts that are so un-Tibetan but very, very Chinese. The inner
> > > feelings lack the human touch, the human quality, the caring nature,
> > > the loving heart and every thing that is gentle. They are like human
> > > robots with no human feelings."
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> > > If you don't agree with the above, may be you should protest against
> > > the savetibet first.
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> > Maybe you should protest, LT. Start a vigil outside their offices.
> > Maybe you can hire someone to bring you your double latte each day
> > while you wait in righteous indignation. Hypocrite.
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> Its not racist or anti Chinese to desire freedom and independence for
> ones nation/tribe/ethnic group. (obviously).
1. Do you think like our savetibet.org poster boy that Chinese "inner
feelings
lack the human touch, the human quality, the caring nature,..."?
2. Do you think such negative characterization is part of Tibetans'
desire for
freedom and independence?
Of course, you are under no obliagation to answer question.
However, one thing is obvious. This goes back to whether the pro-tibet
movement
has any legitimacy and genuine sup****t. The answer is no. They don't
have sup****t
unless the Chinese people are really evil. This is why organizations
like savetibe
has to demonize all Chinese people as a way to drum up sup****t.
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