But it was not integrated under the Mongol or the following Ming !!
The myth of Manchu becoming Chinese is undermined by the fact that they
ran
a system of segregation for a good deal of their reign aimed in preserving
the Manchu cultural separateness and did not permitt migration to the
Manchu
homeland by non-Manchu.
"Privy council " records od very late in the "dynasty" have been found to
be
i Manchu
The idea of beoming Chinese was a costruct by the Manchu so as to build
legitimacy.
<madmaxzen@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On 15 Mar, 20:11, "TFK" <tfkmjk6...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> no it was not - chek the history not written by the CCP revisionists.
>>
>> Even if so the yuan only lasted for 130 years or so and were not
Chinese
>> but
>> were a conqueering foreign people ie like Germns in demanrk -hardly
makes
>> Demnark part of Germany nor Tibet part of china. By hat logic all parts
>> of
>> the Mongol empire are part of China - yeah right !!!!!!!!!!!!1
>>
>> The Manchu who invaded and subjugated Ming China had ambassadors in
Tibet
>> and assisted when invasions took place from Nepal. The Manchu were also
>> foreign invaders of China hence any claim by china oin tibet fails for
>> exactly the same reason.
>>
>> -<madmax...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>
>>
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>>
>> > On 15 Mar, 16:35, Moorthy <morta...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> On 16 Mar, 00:13, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Mar 15, 5:08 pm, tuna <tu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > On Mar 15, 4:06 pm, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > On Mar 15, 5:04 pm, tuna <tu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >> > > >
>http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/03/14/world/20080314-TIBET_inde...
>>
>> >> > > > It's a beautiful country. Too bad the CIA has gotten its hand
>> >> > > > to
>> >> > > > it.
>>
>> >> > > And worse than that the Chinese invaded Tibet !!!
>>
>> >> > No worse than America and the "coalition of the unwilling" invaded
>> >> > Iraq and Afghanistan.
>>
>> >> Chinese dont have any excuse, there was no Bhudhist "Bin Laden" who
>> >> had planned and killed 3000 Chinese Shanghai.
>> >> For over fifty years Chinese have systematically decimated Tibetan
>> >> people and culture. Chinese have tortured, butchered and used brute
>> >> force to occupy a nation of exceptionally peacful people, a nation
>> >> with which they very little in common.
>>
>> > do you have any source to back your claim that:
>>
>> > "For over fifty years Chinese have systematically decimated Tibetan
>> > people and culture. Chinese have tortured, butchered and used brute
>> > force to occupy a nation of exceptionally peacful people, a nation
>> > with which they very little in common"
>>
>> > if I am not mistaken, Tibet was integrated into china when the
mongrol
>> > conquered it and build the Yuan dynasty.
>
> nazy german's conquest of denmark lasted what....the whole of world
> war2? While the integration of tibet since yuan dynasty last at least
> 700 years. As for the comment of Manchu invaded china, yes it is
> true. But the the Manchu assimulated into the chinese culture and
> become the chinese. Chinese isn't make up of 1 ethnic group. The
> chinese are combination of 50+ ethnic groups with Han chinese being
> the majority.
> here is a link for more information of different ethnic grounp of
> chinese http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_China
> At the present, chinese consider themselves the inheritors of all the
> dynasties and their rich cultures.
>
> if you wish to read more detailing information regard Tibet and china:
> http://my.telegraph.co.uk/elle/march_2008/tibet.htm
>
> Can we all just agree that we are all children of mankind and band
> together as one identity: Human?
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