On Mar 16, 10:16=A0pm, "truth" <tr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I have seen, met and heard the teachings of the Dalai
> Lama. He is very calm, most peaceful and modest.
> If he had called for the Independence of Tibet, I would
> have been suspicious of him. Instead he publicly
> declared that the best future for Tibet is to be part of
> China.
I also watch him on TV espousing the middle way.
I also heard him spoken his theology. Yes, he appeared
to a nice guy and smart. Full of religious wisdom. But
the question is whether he is a skillful and concerned
political leader.
> All that he asked from the Chinese authorities
> is to give the Tibetans the space for them to pursue
> their religious, cultural, and historical identities.
> This is a very modest request which I am absolutely
> amazed that the Chinese did not even engage him to
> discuss. They hope to shut him out and the problem
> will blow over after his death. This is wistful thinking.
Let us say he was telling the truth when he said he
only autonomy. But can he deliver? He can't. He was
nothing but a passive pawn in 1959, he was not a force
bringing anything good to his people. During the Qinghai
anitpoverty project controversy, he showed neither
leader****p nor compassion. Again, he said yesterday
he felt helpless. He is smart but I don't see he using his
wisdom in the political realm. May be he is too religiious.
Too much "karma and karma" thinking. This will make
engaging him a fruitless exercise.
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> > On Mar 16, 9:18 pm, "truth" <tr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> For every links u put up I can easily post an opposing
> >> links.
> >> The Dalai Lama is a man of great Wisdom and Vision.
> >> China must engage him to solve this Tibetan problem.
> >> Otherwise the Chinese will have to pay an increasing
> >> price in the future.
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> > It is not about my links.
>
> > However, I don't know him personally. I can only judge him
> > through what he did and what said according to the news
> > media. I provided the links such that discussions can be
> > based on objective facts.
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> > I did not form my opinion based on one instance. I had
> > learnt about what he did 49 years ago. And more recently,
> > his performance during the "Qinghai Anti-poverty project"
> > controversy.
>
> > How about today? The NYTimes article begins with
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> > "The Dalai Lama on Sunday described feeling "helpless" in
> > preventing what he feared could be a bloody clash between
> > his followers and Chinese authorities."
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> > More or less the same response during the Qinghai Anti-
> > project controversy and 49 years ago.
>
> > As the leader of a people, his first duty is not to be helpless.
> > All other people can be helpless, he cannot. Politics, after all,
> > is the arts of the possible.
>
> > Agree that China has to deal with the Tibetan leaders. But
> > is the DL the right choice. If you think he is a great political
> > leader, please share your thought and reasoning.
>
> >> Both the pro-Tibetans and pro-Chinese are wrong.
> >> Both of these camps can go to hell. They will not help
> >> to solve the Tibetan problem for the benefits of all
> >> concern.
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> >> <ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> On Mar 16, 8:52 am, "truth" <tr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >> > It is obvious now that China brought the current Tibet problems
> >> > upon itself by not engaging the Dalai Lama.
> >> > The Dalai Lama is a peaceful loving and reasonable person.
> >> > Had China engaged the Dalai Lama instead of ostracising him,
> >> > the situation in Tibet would not have developed into its' current
> >> > state.
> >> > The Tibetans are wrong to attack, injured and killed the ordinary
> >> > Chinese people for their greviences with the Central government.
> >> > The Chinese Authorities must now act with restrains to stop the
> >> > violences. The culprits should be fairly dealth with. If they need
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> >> > be punished, then punish them. Chinese Authorities must adopt
> >> > a sort of big brotherly mentality like the way they deal with the
> >> > Muslim minorities in Hainan Island. They must now engaged with
> >> > the Dalai Lama to find a solution to the question of Tibet without
> >> > endangering China's control over the territory. Give the Tibetan
> >> > autonomy in certain areas like religion, cultural and traditional
> >> > practices. These Tibetans must also be help economically. Only
> >> > in this way can China win over the hearts and minds of the Tibetan
> >> > people. The Dalai Lama has admitted that it is in Tibetans'
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> >> > to remain a part of China.
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> >> The tragic thing is that the DL is not much of a political leader.
> >> His wisdom of governing is remained at the stage of how a
> >> parrot handler should treat a pet parrot.
>
> >>http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/2000/0717/tibet_sb1.html
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> >> TIME: Can the Tibetans ever be loyal to a Chinese regime?
> >> "...When I was young, I had a beautiful parrot. One attendant always
> >> fed that parrot and so it was absolutely loyal to him. I got a little
> >> bit jealous. On a few occasions, I fed it. But it never showed me any
> >> loyalty. Then I used a stick. And then the loyalty was absolutely
> >> gone."
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> >> Simply put, governance menas responsiblity. It is far more than
> >> bribing the people for their loyalty.
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> >> If the PRC simply wanted loyalty, the first thing was not to treat
> >> them as citizens, but colonial subjects. China simply had to build
> >> more
> >> monasteries, to acknowledge and sup****t more God-kings. The
> >> oversupply
> >> of God-kings from different sects, new and old, will then compete for
> >> good will and subsidies from Beijing. Living standard would remain
> >> low
> >> in Tibet. Birth rate would drop with more Tibetans devoted to
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