Not the same friend!
One is wearing songkok and the other is wearing turban !!
"nur" <arah1958@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> First off I just want to start off saying to anybody who might be
> thinking that I am a fake and pretending to make this story up. That
> in fact I am not, and I know sikhs will say alot of stuff, and I know
> my muslim brothers and sisters
>
> (some not all) will think inside their head good haha a sikh converted
> to islam.
>
>
> But my conversion is nothing to rub in others face or to discriminate
> against. I have posted this story for those sikhs who might be
> thinking about reverting but are not sure or need somebody to relate
> to. Because I sure know if I had that it would have made things
> clearer to me earlier.
>
> I grew up in a very religious sikh family in Canada. Although my
> parents were not amrit shak they were pretty religious, and so was I.
> I went to the gudwara regularly did my seva, prayed. But I wasn't a
> full practicing sikh (i ate meat, cut my hair) but despite that I was
> more religious then most young sikhs.
>
> Growing up I absolutly hated muslims. I cannot even begin to emphasize
> how much i actually did hate them. I hated Islam and everything that
> it stood for. I use to tell everybody to hate them as well. And it
> actually worked, my cousins my family friends. I would tell my younger
> cousins if they ever made friends with a muslim I would kick their
> ass.
>
> I picked on young muslim girls who wore Hijjab. I would find muslims
> online swear at them and at Islam (may allah forgive me).When ever I
> would have to write a paper it would be on Oppresion of women in
> Islam, and or how muslims are devil wor****ppers. My hate for them was
> extreme I was gonna get a tatoo on my back in arabic writing saying
> all the muslims are gonna die.
>
> I think about it now as to why I hated muslims and islam so much and
> it seems clear to me. I was a proud Sikh Jatt girl,extremley proud.
> Whenever I would hear about what the guru's had to go through because
> of the Mongols or that era I'd wanna kill a muslim. I would sit in the
> gudwara listen to the baba tell stories of the guru's and just get
> pissed.
>
> I don't know about gudwara's around the world but in Canada in the
> langar hall they ususally have so many paintings of muslims killing
> sikhs and the guru's. So one would sit there and stare at this and be
> like #%*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
while eating their rotti.
>
> One day I met a Muslim guy at university,and we began going out. I
> don't know why I even went out with him but I did. Eventually we got
> married, my parents were okay with it. We Had a really nice wedding. I
> had already told him that I would die before becoming a muslim, and he
> was okay with that.
>
> As I stayed in their home the first few months of my married life. I
> began to see them as people. They were actually nice people. They
> never once asked me to convert which surprised me. His father was very
> religious, I use to often see him praying or having religious talks
> with my husband.
>
> Even though I had decided okay maybe muslims are nice..but i was still
> like hell no Im a Proud Sikh girl, I use to wear my Kara with pride,
> never ate halal brought my non halal meat for myself.
>
> One day I was like hmm let me find out what islam is. I began reading
> about it. found it very interesting. It was nothing like I thought it
> was. It made so much sense to me. But that wasn't gonna change me
> being a Sikh.
>
> One day I asked my husband to have a debate with me about sikhism and
> islam. My husband never wins debates but he won this one. So i thought
> maybe im not that knowledgable in sikhism. I began taking cl***** and
> studied it day in day out.
>
> The more I studied it the more I got scared, the fact that Islam might
> be the right religon shook me. I couldn't give it up, my pride this is
> who I was a sikh, my anncestors faught to their death so they could
> keep their faith.
>
> Here is some of what i learned.....
>
> 1) Sikhism doesn't believe in prophethood
>
> since i was a little I asked my mom why did muslims kill our gods? He
> was god mom why didn't god kill the muslims. My mom's answer was he
> wanted to show them.. show them what mom? her answer was shut up u ask
> to many questions! I did further research and found out that this was
> part of guru's plans if they wanted they could have done magic but did
> not want to.. sureee okay.
>
> why would god allow mere humans to kill him?
>
> So god can die?
>
> If god can't protect himself how is he gonna help me?
>
> god bleeds like me?
>
> Then some say they were sent down from the akal purath to show the way
> they had a part of god in them. Fiar enough but first off thats wrong
> guru granth says that it denounces prophethood. Secondly if only a
> part of god is with them then why do we wor****p his creation why not
> wor****p the almighty himself. Thats like saying imma go wor****p my
> mom. Don't even deny it you know ur parents are sure enough to have
> pictures of guru Na**** and guru gobind singh ji somewhere in the
> house. And u know ur parents fold their hand and pray to them.
>
> When i use to read Nitnama Bani, I use to read passages which said I
> seek protection under guru gobind singh ji's sword. Guru Gobind singh
> ji died, if he couldn't protect himself with his own sword i don't
> think that sword is gonna do much for me or anybody else.
>
> 2) Sikhism is confused about believing in one god
>
> Guru Na**** Dev Ji was the one who said ik onkar (there is 1 god). But
> Asking my parents and varoius Baba's at the gudwara and even
> discovering it myself. that in fact Ik onkar means all the guru's are
> one. Maybe Guru Na**** did mean there is one god but afterwards
> something happened along the way?
>
> 3) Guru Na**** was a muslim!!
>
> Guru Na****'s chola which is kept by a chosen Gursikh family has in
> arabic the words written on it La illa ilallah muhhamdur rusool allah.
> It is said he gave it to his followers. There are pictures of it on
> the internet if you think I am lying. He went to mecca medina which
> everybody knows.
>
> If u are a muslim u very well know no non-muslims are aloud there.
> It's strictly for believers only. There is story which says Guru Na****
> was sleeping with his feet towards the Kabbah when he arrived at mecca
> and a man asked him to move his feet. when the man would turn the feet
> of Guru Na**** his feet would go back in the same place facing the
> Kabbah. And supposably the man was shocked and thought Guru Na**** was
> a saint.
>
> This story cann't make sense at all!!
>
> First off If that were true and Na**** had his feet in the direction of
> the kabbah they would have killed him no questions asked. Its tottal
> disrespect, and besides why would he come all that way to do hajj and
> then disrespect it like that. It just makes no sense.
>
> Mecca is an extremly religious place u can't just expect to do that
> and nothing happen to you. If guru Na**** thought the Kabbah was
> nothing then he would not have made the trouble to do pilgrimage
> there. If he claims there is no hindu no muslims why did he go perform
> hajj.
>
> When you perform Hajj your very lucky if you get some string from the
> Kabbah which he did and those very strings are in a gudwara in India.
> I've seen them for myself.
>
> 4) Guru Amar Das changed things
>
>
> Its believed by many that he changed alot of guru Na****s writings
> around and or added his own thing in.
>
> 5) Why is it all the sikh gods died?
>
> 6) Sikhism and Hinduism very alike
>
> For those who do not already know the geeta has very digusting things
> in it, hindu's don't like to admit it but Kama sutra is considered
> religious text. Hindu's are idol wor****pers. There are stories of
> their gods jerking off we dont need to get into detail. Guru Granth
> praises the Hindu gods, talks about them.
>
> Why is this that the guru granth can even have these idol gods and
> perverted gods in a sikh book. There are passages that talk about
> hinduism and thier gods and their wor****ps basically not denoucing it
> saying it too is a way of wor****p
>
> Also my mom told me That there was this hindu god I dunno her name she
> had a small mandir and there was a big gudwara next to it, she said to
> one of the guru's. Ur temple is so big nobody will come to my mandir
> it is so small. From that day forth guru said to her from now on for
> those who come to wor****p at this temple have to first go to the
> mandir and pray there.
>
> Sikhs in india actually do that today and even have this godesses
> picture in thier house its the one with the multiple arms.
>
> 7) Sikhs believe all religons is a way to god
>
> If this is so then why were the guru's so against islam. I mean wasn't
> it them wou said follow whatever they are all the path to god? Then
> why is it that sikhs don't allow to cut hair and eat meat and others
> fiaths allow it but they still can go to god? Hmm i dunno sounds like
> somebody got confused.
>
>
>
> 8) Behavior at Amritsar
>
> Amritsar is the holliest sikh place. Why would god allow it to be
> attacked the way it was have women being gang-raped. Children killed
> men murdered. The Guru granth urinated on and set on fire? Also i have
> heard this from so many sikh ladies when they go to amritsar men will
> walk by and grab their private parts walk away as though nothing
> happened. This is suppose to be a holly place and this kind of stuff
> happens i feel more safer in my house. Its sickening that men will do
> this, I cannot understand why god would allow this to happen? ***uall
> assult at a holy sikh temple ... DISGUSTING
>
> 9)Guru's lies
>
> The guru's say that all religons lead to the path of god. If this is
> so why is it if your not amrit shak (baptized sikh) and did not lead a
> good life you don't go to heaven, in fact you are re-incarnated and
> this is an ongoing cycle until u become amrit shak and lead a good
> life!! So whats with the contradictions. No religon is perfect if so
> thing contradict with other then they are not the words of god.
>
> I just want to say to all the sikhs out there that U cannot be mad at
> the muslims for what happened all those years ago. The ones that are
> to blame are those mongols who commited the crime. Allah will punish
> them for what they have done.
>
> in the quran it says:
>
> "If someone kills another person,it is as if he had murdered all
> mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he
> had given life to all mankind. Our Messengers came to them with Clear
> Signs but even after that many of them committed outrages in the
> earth. (Surat al-Ma'ida: 32)
>
> Also think about it u can't force convert anybody. Faith is what is
> already in you it what u are. If I came to you and said convert to
> Hinduism or u will die, and u said okay sure. Then i leave, how am I
> suppose to know if u did it from the heart or not u can show something
> on the outside and be something else on the inside.
>
> also in the quran it says that u cannot force anybody to convert allah
> guides whom he wills and sets astray whom he wills.
>
> If you are thinking of converting here are some helpful sites
>
> IslamOnline.net- Home - Islam, Muslim, News, Shari`ah, Society,
> Family, Culture, Arts, Science
>
> Islam Always Tomorrow Yesterday Today
>
> Islam Yesterday Audio Video MP3 Yusuf Estes
>
> islamtomorow.com
>
> Harun Yahya - An Invitation to The Truth
>
> www.lightuponligh.com
>
> I wrote this to show sikhs the truth not to disprespect anybody or
> hurt anybody. Im very glad allah SWT has shown me the right way
> Alhamdillah. I pray he opens others heart as he has opened mine. you
> can't escape the miracles of the quran, there are no miracles in the
> sikh book. I know Ive read it, i've studied it. So i know what im
> talking about. But the pride away just for a moment and think about
> what i said.
>
> Then everything will become clear to you
>
> Miracles of the Qur'an - Modern Science Reveals New Miracles of the
> Qur'an
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