On 18 Mar, 15:34, Ronald Moshki <sector_f...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> It is obvious that the Dalai Lama knows what the truth behind all
> these riots really is - disillusioned social drop-outs that only want
> to create trouble in the hope that by destroying the establishment
> they can create a society that suits themselves. These trouble makers
> will never be of any use to any society, not even their own. They
> should be rounded up and shot, and good riddance!
>
> On Mar 18, 9:42=A0am, The Speaking Clock <harlequin...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
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> > I was saddened today to hear about the Dalai Lama's statement today
> > that he may resign if the violence in Tibet does not stop. =A0I hope
it
> > does not come to such a sorry pass.
>
> > Amongst his people in exile he has worked to promote participatory
> > democracy, and it has worked out suprisingly well. =A0So well infact,
> > that many other countries could learn something by this experiment in
> > democracy the Tibetans in exile have made. =A0It strikes me that if
the
> > Chinese wish for more peaceful co-existance between Tibetans and
> > Chinese in Tibet, then introducing participatory democracy into the
> > region would be a very good way to bring the peoples living in the
> > area together.
>
> > Most of the time, people are not divided along religious lines in
> > matters of healthcare, sanitation, commerce and schooling. =A0In a
> > participatory democracy people have the op****tunity to see this as
> > they come together to discuss common problems, and this fosters trust
> > in each other and their neighbours. =A0It can build good community
> > relations across cultural divides.
>
> > The Dalai Lama also speaks of Tibet attaining greater autonomy and his
> > wish for greater religious freedoms in Tibet. =A0I am sure that he is
> > thinking about the great potential of participatory democracy within
> > the traditional Tibetan borders, and the benefits China could accrue
> > from a peaceful land of snow. =A0With participatory democracy,
cultural
> > diversity can be promoted and valued, both Chinese and Tibetan, within
> > the framework of a strong and unified community.- Hide quoted text -
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Not according to the perpetual treaty concluded by Tibet and China in
AD 821-2:
"The Great King of Tibet, the Miraculous and Diivine Lord, and the
Great King of China, the Chinese Ruler Hwang-ti, being in the
relation****p of nephew and uncle, have conferred together for the
alliance of their kingdoms. They have made and ratified a great
agreement. Gods and men all know it and bear witness so that it may
never be changed; and an account of the agreement has been engraved on
this stone pillar to inform future ages and generations.
The Miraculous Divine Lord Trisong Dretsen and the Chinese king Wen Wu
Hsiao-te Hwang-ti, nephew and uncle, seeking in their far reaching
wisdom to prevent all causes of harm to the welfare of their countries
now or in the future, have extended their benevolence impartially over
all. With the single desire of acting for the peace of all their
subjects they have agreed on the high purpose of ensuring everlasting
good; and they have made this treaty in order to restore the former
ancient friend****p and mutual regard and the old relation****p of
friendly neighbourliness.
Tibet and China shall abide by the frontiers of which they are now in
occupation. All to the east is the country of Great China; and all to
the west is, without question, the country of Great Tibet. Henceforth
on neither side shall there be waging of war nor seizing of
territory. If any person incurs suspicion he shall be arrested; his
business shall be inquired into and he shall be escourted back.
Now that the two kingdoms have been allied by this great treaty it is
necessary that messengers should once again be sent by the old route
to maintain communications and carry the exchange of friendly messages
regarding the harmonious relations between nephew and uncle.
According to the old custom, horses shall be changed at the foot of
the Chiang Chun pass, the frontier between Tibet and China. At the
Suiyung barrier the Chinese shall meet Tibetan envoys and provide all
facilities. On both sides they shall be treated with customary honour
and respect in conformity with the friendly relations between nephew
and uncle.
Between the two countries no smoke nor dust shall be seen. There
shall be no sudden alarms and the very word 'enemy' shall not be
spoken. Even the frontier guards shall have no anxiety nor fear and
shall enjoy land and bed at their ease. All shall live in peace and
share the blessings of happiness for ten thousand years. The fame of
this shall extend to all places reached by the sun and the moon.
This solemn agreement has established a great epoch when Tibetans
shall be happy in the land of Tibet, and Chinese in the land of
China. So that it may never be changed, the Three Precious Jewels of
Religion, the Assembly of Saints, the Sun, the Moon, Planets and Stars
have been invoked as witnesses. An oath has been taken with solemn
words and with the sacrifice of animals; and the agreement has been
ratified.
If the parties do not act in accordance with this agreement or if they
violate it, which ever it be, Tibet or China, NOTHING THAT THE OTHER
PARTY MAY DO BY WAY OF RETALIATION SHALL BE CONSIDERED A BREACH OF THE
TREATY ON THEIR PART.
The Kings and Ministers of Tibet and China have taken the prescribed
oaths to this effect and the agreement has been written in detail.
The two Kings have affixed their seals. The Ministers specially
empowered to execute the agreement have inscribed their signatures and
copies have been deposited in the royal records of each party."
In those days - China really knew how to get down and write a proper
treaty that people could Respect.
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