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Re: A monk shouted," There is no religious freedom." Was he

by baldeagle <botakeagle@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 1, 2008 at 03:40 PM

On Mar 30, 6:20=A0pm, "ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mar 30, 4:57=A0am, baldeagle <botakea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > On Mar 30, 9:57=A0am, "Jakub A. Krzewicki" <ebre...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > wrote:
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> > > sobota, 29 marca 2008 04:47. carbon entity 'baldeagle'
> > > <botakea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> contaminated talk.politics.tibet with the
> > > following letter:
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> > > > When he acheive nivarna, he taught his monks to spread
> > > > his words to the people, to serve the people, ..not =A0to be
> > > > the king or rulers. =A0(Dailai Lama failed to heed his teaching
> > > > and therefore he is NOT a good monk.)
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> > > What is therefore the figure of the Shambhala chakravartins called
Kal=
kins
> > > in the Kalachakra Tantra? The Hinayanic rule that the spiritual
leader=
 must
> > > not be a king was overridden here by the higher Vajrayana order.
> > > --
> > > tois egregorosin hena kai koinon kosmon einai
> > > ton de koimomenon hekaston eis idion apostrephesthai
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> > In Buddhism, is there a higher authority than
> > Buddha himself.
> > Is it you ?
>
> 'Hihger' would be right if it meant 'later.' I think the other netter
> got the time line mixed up. It is not "the spiritual leader must not
> be a king was overridden here by the higher Vajrayana order." Rather,
> the highest religous leader was also a king was the pre-existing
> condition in Tibet which was then dominated by Bon. Buddhism adopted
> to Tibet's local condition. Viola, the Vajrayana branch, i.e. Tibetan
> Buddhism with god-king a part of it was born.
>

Local conditions ?
Yes. Some local conditions do apply ...but only in area which
do not directly violate Buddha's teaching and his rules
for monks.  Buddha had very strict rules governing the
behaviour of Bhikkhu (monk)  in a sangka (place for monks).

By claiming a superior human state, as a religious king,
Dalai Lama has violated one of the four cardinal rules for
which a monk will be expelled from monk hood.

A monk will be expelled if
1) he had *** with female or female animal
2) he committed thief or other crimes
3) he killed another human being.
4) he claimed a superior human state. (all monks are
    equal human beings.. no king, no lord, no royalty)


Since there is no one to expel him from monk hood in
Tibet, ....he is NOT regarded as a monk by the other
Buddhist abbots.


See monastic codes :
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/thanissaro/bmc1/bmc1.ch04.html
 




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Re: A monk shouted," There is no religious freedom." Was he
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