On Apr 2, 6:40=A0am, baldeagle <botakea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mar 30, 6:20=A0pm, "ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Mar 30, 4:57=A0am, baldeagle <botakea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Mar 30, 9:57=A0am, "Jakub A. Krzewicki" <ebre...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > sobota, 29 marca 2008 04:47. carbon entity 'baldeagle'
> > > > <botakea...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> contaminated talk.politics.tibet with
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> > > > following letter:
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> > > > > When he acheive nivarna, he taught his monks to spread
> > > > > his words to the people, to serve the people, ..not =A0to be
> > > > > the king or rulers. =A0(Dailai Lama failed to heed his teaching
> > > > > and therefore he is NOT a good monk.)
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> > > > What is therefore the figure of the Shambhala chakravartins called
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alkins
> > > > in the Kalachakra Tantra? The Hinayanic rule that the spiritual
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er must
> > > > not be a king was overridden here by the higher Vajrayana order.
> > > > --
> > > > tois egregorosin hena kai koinon kosmon einai
> > > > ton de koimomenon hekaston eis idion apostrephesthai
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> > > In Buddhism, is there a higher authority than
> > > Buddha himself.
> > > Is it you ?
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> > 'Hihger' would be right if it meant 'later.' I think the other netter
> > got the time line mixed up. It is not "the spiritual leader must not
> > be a king was overridden here by the higher Vajrayana order." Rather,
> > the highest religous leader was also a king was the pre-existing
> > condition in Tibet which was then dominated by Bon. Buddhism adopted
> > to Tibet's local condition. Viola, the Vajrayana branch, i.e. Tibetan
> > Buddhism with god-king a part of it was born.
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> Local conditions ?
> Yes. Some local conditions do apply ...but only in area which
> do not directly violate Buddha's teaching and his rules
> for monks. =A0Buddha had very strict rules governing the
> behaviour of Bhikkhu (monk) =A0in a sangka (place for monks).
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> By claiming a superior human state, as a religious king,
> Dalai Lama has violated one of the four cardinal rules for
> which a monk will be expelled from monk hood.
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> A monk will be expelled if
> 1) he had *** with female or female animal
> 2) he committed thief or other crimes
> 3) he killed another human being.
> 4) he claimed a superior human state. (all monks are
> =A0 =A0 equal human beings.. no king, no lord, no royalty)
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> Since there is no one to expel him from monk hood in
> Tibet, ....he is NOT regarded as a monk by the other
> Buddhist abbots.
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> See monastic codes
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