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Re: ....Beijing Olympics.....Big-Money and Big-Brother....together at last!

by "jonathan" <maatschj@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 1, 2008 at 08:39 PM

"David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:jqvIj.5832$A87.2497@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>> However, the original
>> claim that the US is higher in 'absolute numbers' stands exposed as
>> malarkey.
>
> Nonsense.   I don't play your kind of game - even though mentioning
> this was essentially minutia and trivial to your accusation that holding
> the Olympics in China was "sup****tive of a dictator****p".  Believe me,
> the USA will fall behind China in any number of categories *very* soon.
> China already owns roughly 30% of the US national debt, which is likely
> collateralized by national parks, wildlife refuges and areas not staked
> by individuals.

So what? Pre war Germany and Japan also had skyrocketing
economies. And what happened to them, and why?
It's because of the fact they were dictator****ps, which are not
only steeped in ruinous corruption, but can't adapt to change
fast enough. Generally reacting to change/dissent in just the wrong way
by becoming even more repressive. Setting off the inevitable
viscous cycle to ever greater internal conflict and disaster.

In this case, the Chinese bubble is about to burst. And it'll be
a beauty when it happens. The rate of growth is just too high, as
is the level of corruption and economic disparity. China will
likely go the route of the former Soviet Union.

The post-Olympic disillusionment is bound to be intense.


> Best help to fix the US and your own nation before
> *****ing about another...


Bull. Their illegal and immoral form of govt creates a far
greater likelihood of a future with a new era of wasteful
cold war-like military competition. Full of proxy battles
and other cold war injustices. If not a full blown war
over Taiwan or over resources.  If someone's illegal actions
harm me I have a right to complain and insist the
illegal actions stop.

Democracies have every right to intervene with a dictator****p
for example ...Iraq.

Not everywhere at once, let's be practical about it
....the worst...first.

Once China falls to democracy, so will most others in time.



>especially when more manufacturing and
> more general commerce, along with a skyrocketing standard of living,
> is taking place in the country you choose to ***** about. If they were
to
> come collecting the money that America owes them, or simply sell off
> their holdings in American currency due to the falling dollar value,
they
> could *crush* America without raising a single rifle. Get a grip on your
> misguided concepts about "dictator****ps".


Without the overlapping checks and balances of a democratic govt
and a well regulated economic system, China will never catch up
with the west. It'll only get teasingly close for a bit, then collapse
ala the Soviet Union. Or burst into flames ala Germany and Japan.

Face it, to catch is, China has to become just like us.
Until they become democratic, their economic system
will face ever growing corruption and disparity
that has only one future.

China is becoming the largest 'house of cards' the world
has ever seen. Think 1929 ...times a hundred.



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>      "Using state-by-state data, the re****t says 2,319,258 Americans
>      were in jail or prison at the start of 2008 - one out of every 99.1
>      adults. Whether per capita or in raw numbers, it's more than
>      any other nation."



Why is this a bad thing???

The American people have spoken over and over again.
We want those people in jail.







>                                        --  Record Number of Americans in

> Prison
>                                            By DAVID CRARY, AP
>                                            Posted: 2008-02-28 22:20:03
>                                            Filed Under: Nation News
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>       "America is a quarter of a billion people totally misinformed and
>        disinformed by their government. This is tragic but our media is
-- I
>        wouldn't even say corrupt -- it's just beyond telling us anything
that
>        the government doesn't want us to know."
>                                           -- Gore Vidal
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Re: ....Beijing Olympics.....Big-Money and Big-Brother....togeth
"Don't Taze Me, Bro!  2008-03-29 07:12:24 
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"jonathan" <  2008-03-29 15:20:24 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-01 08:46:12 
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xi <xieu.ling@[EMAIL P  2008-04-01 11:57:23 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-01 19:13:42 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-03 17:16:22 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-06 17:42:20 
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"Terrell Miller"  2008-04-06 14:37:35 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-06 19:00:00 
Re: ....Beijing Olympics.....Big-Money and Big-Brother....togeth
Eric Chomko <pne.chomk  2008-04-18 13:05:06 
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Quadibloc <jsavard@[EM  2008-03-31 05:25:49 
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"jonathan" <  2008-03-31 19:31:14 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-01 06:23:32 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-01 06:46:27 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-01 18:05:13 
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"jonathan" <  2008-04-01 20:48:58 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-01 21:26:28 
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"jonathan" <  2008-04-03 19:59:26 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-03 22:50:23 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-06 18:00:07 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-06 17:57:13 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-01 20:02:03 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-06 18:07:32 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-06 12:36:09 
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simberg.interglobal@[EMAI  2008-04-03 12:59:21 
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WanLF <wanlongfak@[EMA  2008-04-05 05:09:57 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-04 16:26:27 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-04 22:23:01 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-01 06:49:45 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-01 07:40:24 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-01 18:16:32 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-01 20:03:22 
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"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-04-01 08:10:54 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-01 08:30:52 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-04-01 08:17:57 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-01 08:32:11 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-01 18:46:39 
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"jonathan" <  2008-04-01 20:39:46 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-06 17:31:50 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-01 20:04:26 
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Quadibloc <jsavard@[EM  2008-04-01 22:14:18 
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"jonathan" <  2008-04-03 19:31:51 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-06 18:14:45 
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"Terrell Miller"  2008-04-06 14:53:49 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-06 12:48:46 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-06 19:58:17 
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simberg.interglobal@[EMAI  2008-04-06 20:50:56 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-07 01:31:03 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-06 20:26:22 
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Eric Chomko <pne.chomk  2008-04-03 12:06:04 
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simberg.interglobal@[EMAI  2008-04-03 19:15:46 
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Eric Chomko <pne.chomk  2008-04-03 12:29:23 
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"zzbunker@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-03 18:17:30 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-04-03 18:19:22 
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Eric Chomko <pne.chomk  2008-04-04 11:12:55 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-04 13:57:58 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-04 18:58:43 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-04 21:34:32 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-05 01:10:54 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-05 01:01:56 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-05 10:36:39 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-05 12:09:59 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-04-05 16:00:19 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-04-04 15:05:31 
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Eric Chomko <pne.chomk  2008-04-07 11:27:02 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-08 07:23:33 
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Fred J. McCall <fmccal  2008-04-08 08:31:03 
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Eric Chomko <pne.chomk  2008-04-07 11:29:05 
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Eric Chomko <pne.chomk  2008-04-09 08:41:59 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-09 17:50:55 
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Eric Chomko <pne.chomk  2008-04-09 08:44:44 
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"Terrell Miller"  2008-04-09 21:21:59 
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Eric Chomko <pne.chomk  2008-04-10 08:15:16 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-10 16:14:41 
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xi <xieu.ling@[EMAIL P  2008-04-10 08:23:14 
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Eric Chomko <pne.chomk  2008-04-10 09:28:28 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-16 03:27:21 
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"zzbunker@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-16 03:34:08 
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Eric Chomko <pne.chomk  2008-04-17 14:35:31 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-18 05:47:52 
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"David Morgan \(MAMS  2008-04-18 05:35:31 

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