Re: ....Beijing Olympics.....Big-Money and Big-Brother....together at last!

"David Morgan \(MAMS\)" <findme@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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:"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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:> "David Morgan \(MAMS\)" <findme@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
:> :
:> :... and the USA has
:> :more incarcerated people (by gross number AND per capita) than
:> :any other nation on Earth...
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:> Not true.  Even using 'official numbers China has a higher
:> incarceration number.
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:Dude.... where to you get your information ?    China ?
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:I'm sorry to have to say this, but you are either ill informed; exist in
:a voluntary state of denial; or you are simply full of ****.
:

Or I use an actual cite that compares apples to apples, which I
already pointed out.


:Here's what the US Department of Justice has to say for 2007....
:http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/p06.htm
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:Here is last years DoJ spreadsheet on current US incarcerations....
:http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/p06.pdf
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Neither of which says anything about China.

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:The stats are pretty easy to find on the net - here's a couple for
ya'....
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:http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/12/05/usdom17491.htm
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:http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080301192147AA4bxru
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They're wrong.  They're not counting 'administrative detention' as
'prisoners' for China and they most certainly are.

The actual number of people imprisoned in China is more like 2.5
million than 1.5 million once you include everyone.

:
:Here is last month's AP *****sment story from whence I obtained
:that earlier quote....   (Oh... read it and weep - and I mean that...
:

I will indeed weep, but not for the reason you indicate.  I weep for
the usual uninformed and incorrect re****ting of 'professional
journalists'.

:
:Ze Department of Ze Homeland Zecurity is throwing away the
:keys on non-violent, victimless criminals while the cor****ate
:theives and corrupt politicians are sliding... it's called, a 'police
:state' dictator****p).
:

Oh, I see.  You're just an idiot.  Never mind, then.

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:Record Number of Americans in Prison
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:By DAVID CRARY, AP
:Posted: 2008-02-28 22:20:03
:Filed Under: Nation News
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:NEW YORK - For the first time in U.S. history, more than one
:of every 100 adults is in jail or prison, according to a new re****t
:do***enting America's rank as the world's No. 1 incarcerator.
:It urges states to curtail corrections spending by placing fewer
:low-risk offenders behind bars.
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:Using state-by-state data, the re****t says 2,319,258 Americans
:were in jail or prison at the start of 2008 — one out of every 99.1
:adults. Whether per capita or in raw numbers, it's more than
:any other nation.
:

Except it isn't.  If you count 'administrative detention', China's
prisoner population is larger than the 2.3 million given for the US.

Ignorant dumbass.

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