On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:49:23 -0700 (PDT), bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>On Apr 9, 2:42?pm, Raymond <ni...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:24:00 -0700 (PDT), bmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> >On Apr 9, 1:06?pm, Raymond <ni...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:52:11 -0700 (PDT), bmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> >> >On Apr 9, 12:45?pm, Raymond <ni...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 11:09:14 -0700 (PDT), bmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> >> >> >On Apr 9, 10:32?am, "ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Apr 9, 12:59?pm, CharlesLiu <chliu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> >> >> >> > On Apr 9, 9:13 am, "ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >> >> >
>http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/Print.aspx?Id=e92d5c73-0a26-4...
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>> >> >> >> > > ------------------------
>>
>> >> >> >> > > "Tibetans are non-violent people," the spiritual leader
maintained
>> >> >> >> > > rubbi****ng allegations by China that he and his sup****ters
were behind
>> >> >> >> > > the recent violence in Tibet.
>>
>> >> >> >> > > He suggested that China itself could be behind the
violence as he said
>> >> >> >> > > "we have heard about a few hundred Chinese soldiers
received monks'
>> >> >> >> > > dress."
>>
>> >> >> >> > > "They (soldiers) dressed like monks. So, for a lay person,
they will
>> >> >> >> > > look like monks. But the swords they had, were not
Tibetan, they were
>> >> >> >> > > Chinese swords," he said, apparently responding to China's
campaign
>> >> >> >> > > that monks had indulged in violence.
>>
>> >> >> >> > > --------------------------
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>> >> >> >> > HH was not the source - it came from Epoch Times. A quick
Google
>> >> >> >> > search reveals citation of the source, Ngawang Nyendra (sp),
was
>> >> >> >> > heavily promoted by FLG media Sound of Hope and Epoch Times
- everyone
>> >> >> >> > else quoted them:
>>
>> >> >> >>
>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ngawang+Nyendra&btnG=Google+Search
>>
>> >> >> >> > Check out Roland Soong's research on this FLG generated
propaganda:
>>
>> >> >> >> >http://www.zonaeuropa.com/20080330_1.htm-Hidequotedtext-
>>
>> >> >> >> > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> >> Others might suggest that first. But he himself repeat the lie
>>
>> >> >> >To lie implies intention. It has been explained to you before
that
>> >> >> >saying something untrue is not the same as lying,
>>
>> >> >> That is how the western civilization has turned into a liar's
haven,
>> >> >> isn't it?
>>
>> >> >> ?but you choose to
>>
>> >> >> >ignore it. If you want to find a liar in this thread, it's LT
Lee. As
>> >> >> >usual.
>>
>> >> >> Why do you think it's justified to accuse the truthful in
protecting
>> >> >> the evil deceit?
>>
>> >> >Careful Raymond - your assertions have grown rather silly and you
are
>> >> >starting to be seen as foolish and mindlessly dogmatic by the
thinking
>> >> >people on this NG.
>>
>> >> What's the matter? You are so used to your normal brainwa****ng by
your
>> >> elite intellectuals, you can't really think for yourself to look at
>> >> the world with independent views anymore? Talking about slaves, who
is
>> >> the real mental slave here in this case?
>>
>> >> Stop repeating what you were told. Start thinking for yourself by
>> >> understanding the difference between right and wrong for a change.
>> >> Would you?
>>
>> >Young man, you talk a lot but methinks you protesteth too much. Why do
>> >you have this need to defend China, even when it doesn't deserve
>> >defending? Mindless defense of one's country is not a good thing.
>>
>> >The fact is that when people accuse you of being brainwashed, all you
>> >seem to be able to do is say things like "Hey, I'm not brainwashed -
>> >you are brainwashed!"
>>
>> >That's a child's answer, Raymond. Not very impressive.
>>
>> Hehehe, what a lame argument. Can't really answer my charges, can you?
>
>You're not as big a deal as you think you are.
>
>You're much like LT Lee in that regard. Endless talk and micro-focus
>on convoluted topics, but a stubborn refusal to admit basic, obvious
>facts, like that there is a real problem in Tibet because Tibetans are
>unhappy with Chinese rule. Not just a few troublemakers, either, as
>the Chinese government tries so hard to make us believe. It's a
>pervasive problem and if you won't acknowledge that it's pretty
>pointless to try to have a real discussion with you.
That's only what your media wants you to believe, and you swallowed it
hook, line, and sinker. You have no idea about the real Tibet. I
recommend the British Do***entary on BBC4 "A year in Tibet".
Hopefully, you can learn more about Tibet from a British point of
view.
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