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> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 16:52:42 -0700 (PDT),some silly liar calling itself
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> >On Apr 9, 2:40 pm, ralph <rstead...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 05:47:28 -0700 (PDT), "ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> >What makes you think 1.3 billion Chinese people need or want your
> >> >advaocacy? Do you truly believe they are all dumb and cannot ask
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> >> >get what they truly want?
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> >> I suppose they are not so dumb to risk getting murdered by Chinese
> >> government. The world can see what the Chinese government does to
> >> anyone who dares ask for change.
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> >> We remember Tiananmen Square,
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> >You still dare to bring the TAM Square Massacre as justification of
> >Chinese brutality? TAM Square incident was orchestrated by the CIA
> >and dummy students at the urging of CIA operative in Beijing. All
> >those student leaders should be hung and shot for being CIA stooges.
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> Sorry liar, you have no proof out all of "CIA" involvement.
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> That is a fiction used by sup****ters of the fasicst unelected Chinese
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> >> where tanks were used to slaughter
> >> un-armed civilians demanding the basic human right of free speech
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> >> of course China still censors internet discussion like this one).
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> >No it was a CIA staged coup created by CIA agents to bring the Chinese
> >government.
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> Proof? Of course not - because it is a lie.
Risky Geopolitical Game: Wa****ngton Plays 'Tibet Roulette' with China
by F. William Engdahl
Global Research, April 10, 2008
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Wa****ngton has obviously decided on an ultra-high risk geopolitical
game with Beijing's by fanning the flames of violence in Tibet just at
this sensitive time in their relations and on the run-up to the
Beijing Olympics. It's part of an escalating strategy of
destabilization of China which has been initiated by the Bush
Administration over the past months. It also includes the attempt to
ignite an anti-China Saffron Revolution in the neighboring Myanmar
region, bringing US-led NATO troops into Darfur where China's oil
companies are developing potentially huge oil reserves. It includes
counter moves across mineral-rich Africa. And it includes strenuous
efforts to turn India into a major new US forward base on the Asian
sub-continent to be deployed against China, though evidence to date
suggests the Indian government is being very cautious not to upset
Chinese relations.
The current Tibet operation apparently got the green light in October
last year when George Bush agreed to meet the Dalai Lama for the first
time publicly in Wa****ngton. The President of the United States is not
unaware of the high stakes of such an insult to Beijing. Bush deepened
the affront to America's largest trading partner, China, by agreeing
to attend as the US Congress awarded the Dalai Lama the Congressional
Gold Medal.
The immediate expressions of sup****t for the crimson monks of Tibet
from George Bush, Condi Rice, France's Nicolas Sarkozy and Germany's
Angela Merkel most recently took on dimensions of the absurd. Ms
Merkel announced she would boycott attending the August Beijing Summer
Olympics as her protest at the Beijing treatment of the Tibetan monks.
What her press secretary omitted is that she had not even planned to
go in the first place.
She was followed by an announcement that Poland's Prime Minister, the
pro-Wa****ngton Donald Tusk, would also stay away, along with pro-US
Czech President Vaclav Klaus. It is unclear whether they also hadn't
planned to go in the first place but it made for dramatic press
headlines.
The recent wave of violent protests and do***ented attacks by Tibetan
monks against Han Chinese residents began on March 10 when several
hundred monks marched on Lhasa to demand release of other monks
allegedly detained for celebrating the award of the US Congress' Gold
Medal last October. The monks were joined by other monks marching to
protest Beijing rule on the 49th anniversary of the Tibetan uprising
against Chinese rule.
The geopolitical game
As the Chinese government itself was clear to point out, the sudden
eruption of anti-Chinese violence in Tibet, a new phase in the
movement led by the exiled Dalai Lama, was suspiciously timed to try
to put the spotlight on Beijing's human rights record on the eve of
the coming Olympics. The Beijing Olympics are an event seen in China
as a major acknowledgement of the arrival of a new prosperous China on
the world stage.
The background actors in the Tibet "Crimson revolution" actions
confirm that Wa****ngton has been working overtime in recent months to
prepare another of its infamous Color Revolutions, these fanning
public protests designed to inflict maximum embarrassment on Beijing.
The actors on the ground in and outside Tibet are the usual suspects,
tied to the US State Department, including the National Endowment for
Democracy (NED), the CIA's Freedom House through its chairman, Bette
Bao Lord and her role in the International Committee for Tibet, as
well as the Trace Foundation financed by the wealth of George Soros
through his daughter, Andrea Soros Colombel.
Chinese Prime Minister Wen Jiabao has accused the Dalai Lama of
orchestrating the latest unrest to sabotage the Olympic Games "in
order to achieve their unspeakable goal", Tibetan independence.
Bush telephoned his Chinese counterpart, President Hu Jintao, to
pressure for talks between Beijing and the exiled Dalai Lama. The
White House said that Bush, "raised his concerns about the situation
in Tibet and encouraged the Chinese government to engage in
substantive dialogue with the Dalai Lama's representatives and to
allow access for journalists and diplomats."
President Hu re****tedly told Bush the Dalai Lama must "stop his
sabotage" of the Olympics before Beijing takes a decision on talks
with the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader, foreign ministry spokesman
Qin Gang said.
Dalai Lama's odd friends
In the West the image of the Dalai Lama has been so much promoted that
in many circles he is deemed almost a God. While the spiritual life of
the Dalai Lama is not our focus, it is relevant to note briefly the
circles he has chosen to travel in most of his life.
The Dalai Lama travels in what can only be called rather conservative
political circles. What is generally forgotten today is that during
the 1930's the Nazis including Gestapo chief Heinrich Himmler and
other top Nazi Party leaders regarded Tibet as the holy site of the
survivors of the lost Atlantis, and the origin of the "Nordic pure
race."
When he was 11 and already designated Dalai Lama, he was befriended by
Heinrich Harrer, a Nazi Party member and officer of Heinrich Himmler's
feared SS. Far from the innocent image of him in the popular Hollywood
film with Brad Pitt, Harrer was an elite SS member at the time he met
the 11 year old Dalai Lama and became his tutor in "the world outside
Tibet." While only the Dalai Lama knows the contents of Harrer's
private lessons, the two remained friends until Harrer died a ripe 93
in 2006.1
That sole friend****p, of course, does not define a person's character,
but it is interesting in the context of later friends. In April 1999,
along with Margaret Thatcher, and former Beijing Ambassador, CIA
Director and President, George H.W. Bush, the Dalai Lama demanded the
British government release Augusto Pinochet, the former fascist
dictator of Chile and a longtime CIA client who was visiting England.
The Dalai Lama urged that Pinochet not be forced to go to Spain where
he was wanted to stand trial for crimes against humanity. The Dalai
Lama had close ties to Miguel Serrano2, head of Chile's National
Socialist Party, a proponent of something called esoteric Hitlerism.
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Leaving aside at this point the claim of the Dalai Lama to divinity,
what is indisputable is that he has been surrounded and financed in
significant part, since his flight into Indian exile in 1959, by
various US and Western intelligence services and their gaggle of NGOs.
It is the agenda of the Wa****ngton friends of the Dalai Lama that is
relevant here.
The NED at work again...
As author Michael Parenti notes in his work, Friendly Feudalism: The
Tibet Myth, "during the 1950s and 60s, the CIA actively backed the
Tibetan cause with arms, military training, money, air sup****t and all
sorts of other help." The US-based American Society for a Free Asia, a
CIA front, publicized the cause of Tibetan resistance, with the Dalai
Lama's eldest brother, Thubtan Norbu, playing an active role in the
group. The Dalai Lama's second-eldest brother, Gyalo Thondup,
established an intelligence operation with the CIA in 1951. It was
later upgraded into a CIA-trained guerrilla unit whose recruits
parachuted back into Tibet, according to Parenti.4
According to declassified US intelligence do***ents released in the
late 1990s, "for much of the 1960s, the CIA provided the Tibetan exile
movement with $1.7 million a year for operations against China,
including an annual subsidy of $180,000 for the Dalai Lama." 5
With help of the CIA, the Dalai Lama fled to Dharamsala, India where
he lives to the present. He continues to receive millions of dollars
in backing today, not from the CIA but from a more innocuous-sounding
CIA front organization, funded by the US Congress, the National
Endowment for Democracy (NED). The NED has been instrumental in every
US-backed Color Revolution destabilization from Serbia to Georgia to
Ukraine to Myanmar. Its funds go to back opposition media and global
public relations campaigns to popularize their pet opposition
candidates.
As in the other recent Color Revolutions, the US Government is fanning
the flames of destabilization against China by funding opposition
protest organizations inside and outside Tibet through its arm, the
National Endowment for Democracy (NED).
The NED was founded by the Reagan Administration in the early 1980's,
on the recommendation of Bill Casey, Reagan's Director of the Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA), following a series of high-publicity
exposures of CIA assassinations and destabilizations of unfriendly
regimes. The NED was designed to pose as an independent NGO, one step
removed from the CIA and Government agencies so as to be less
conspicuous, presumably. The first acting President of the NED, Allen
Weinstein, commented to the Wa****ngton Post that, "A lot of what we
[the NED] do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA." 6
American intelligence historian, William Blum states, "The NED played
an im****tant role in the Iran-Contra affair of the 1980s, funding key
components of Oliver North's shadowy "Project Democracy." This network
privatized US foreign policy, waged war, ran arms and drugs, and
engaged in other equally charming activities. In 1987, a White House
spokesman stated that those at NED "run Project Democracy." 7
The most prominent pro-Dalai Lama Tibet independence organization
today is the International Campaign for Tibet, founded in Wa****ngton
in 1988. Since at least 1994 the ICT has been receiving funds from the
NED. The ICT awarded their annual Light of Truth award in 2005 to Carl
Gershman, founder of the NED. Other ICT award winners have included
the German Friedrich Naumann Foundation and Czech leader, Vaclav
Havel. The ICT Board of Directors is peopled with former US State
Department officials including Gare Smith and Julia Taft. 8
Another especially active anti-Beijing organization is the US-based
Students for a Free Tibet, founded in 1994 in New York City as a
project of US Tibet Committee and the NED-financed International
Campaign for Tibet (ICT). The SFT is most known for unfurling a 450
foot banner atop the Great Wall in China; calling for a free Tibet,
and accusing Beijing of wholly unsubstantiated claims of genocide
against Tibet. Apparently it makes good drama to rally na=EFve
students.
The SFT was among five organizations which this past January that
proclaimed start of a "Tibetan people's uprising" on Jan 4 this year
and co-founded a tem****ary office in charge of coordination and
financing.
Harry Wu is another prominent Dalai Lama sup****ter against Beijing. He
became notorious for claiming falsely in a 1996 Playboy interview that
he had "videotaped a prisoner whose kidneys were surgically removed
while he was alive, and then the prisoner was taken out and shot. The
tape was broadcast by BBC." The BBC film showed nothing of the sort,
but the damage was done. How many people check old BBC archives? Wu, a
retired Berkeley professor who left China after imprisonment as a
dissident, is head of the Laogai Research Foundation, a tax-exempt
organization whose main funding is from the NED.9
Among related projects, the US Government-financed NED also sup****ts
the Tibet Times newspaper, run out of the Dalai Lama's exile base at
Dharamsala, India. The NED also funds the Tibet Multimedia Center for
"information dissemination that addresses the struggle for human
rights and democracy in Tibet," also based in Dharamsala. And NED
finances the Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy.
In short, US State Department and US intelligence community finger
prints are all over the upsurge around the Free Tibet movement and the
anti-Han Chinese attacks of March. The question to be asked is why,
and especially why now?
Tibet's raw minerals treasure
Tibet is of strategic im****t to China not only for its geographical
location astride the border with India, Wa****ngton's newest anti-China
ally in Asia. Tibet is also a treasure of minerals and also oil. Tibet
contains some of the world's largest uranium and borax deposits, one
half of the world's lithium, the largest copper deposits in Asia,
enormous iron deposits, and over 80,000 gold mines. Tibet's forests
are the largest timber reserve at China's disposal; as of 1980, an
estimated $54 billion worth of trees had been felled and taken by
China. Tibet also contains some of the largest oil reserves in the
region.10
On the Tibet Autonomous Region's border along the Xinjiang Uygur
Autonomous Region is also a vast oil and mineral region in the Qaidam
Basin, known as a "treasure basin." The Basin has 57 different types
of mineral resources with proven reserves including petroleum, natural
gas, coal, crude salt, potassium, magnesium, lead, zinc and gold.
These mineral resources have a potential economic value of 15 trillion
yuan or US$1.8 trillion. Proven reserves of potassium, lithium and
crude salt in the basin are the biggest in China.
And situated as it is, on the "roof of the world," Tibet is perhaps
the world's most valuable water source. Tibet is the source of seven
of Asia's greatest rivers which provide water for 2 billion people."
He who controls Tibet's water has a mighty powerful geopolitical lever
over all Asia.
But the prime interest of Tibet for Wa****ngton today is its potential
to act as a lever to destabilize and blackmail the Beijing
Government.
Wa****ngton's 'nonviolence as a form of warfare'
The events in Tibet since March 10 have been played in Western media
with little regard to accuracy or independent cross-checking. Most of
the pictures blown up in European and US newspapers and TV have not
even been of Chinese military oppression of Tibetan lamas or monks.
They have been shown to be in most cases either Reuters or AFP
pictures of Han Chinese being beaten by Tibetan monks in paramilitary
organizations. In some instances German TV stations ran video pictures
of beatings that were not even from Tibet but rather by Nepalese
police in Kathmandu. 11
The western media complicity simply further underlies that the actions
around Tibet are part of a well-orchestrated destabilization effort on
the part of Wa****ngton. What few people realize is that the National
Endowment for Democracy (NED) was also instrumental, along with Gene
Sharp's misnamed Albert Einstein Institution through Colonel Robert
Helvey, in encouraging the student protests at Tiananmen Square in
June 1989. The Albert Einstein Institution, as it describes itself,
specializes in "nonviolence as a form of warfare." 12
Colonel Helvey was formerly with the Defense Intelligence Agency
stationed in Myanmar. Helvey trained in Hong Kong the student leaders
from Beijing in mass demonstration techniques which they were to use
in the Tiananmen Square incident of June 1989. He is now believed
acting as an adviser to the Falun Gong in similar civil disobedience
techniques. Helvey nominally retired from the army in 1991, but had
been working with the Albert Einstein Institution and George Soros'
Open Society Foundation long before then. In its annual re****t for
2004 Helvey's Albert Einstein Institution admitted to advising people
in Tibet. 13
With the emergence of the Internet and mobile telephone use, the US
Pentagon has refined an entirely new form of regime change and
political destabilization. As one researcher of the phenomenon behind
the wave of color revolutions, Jonathan Mowat, describes it,
"...What we are seeing is civilian application of Secretary Donald
Rumsfeld's "Revolution in Military Affairs" doctrine, which depends on
highly mobile small group deployments "enabled" by "real time"
intelligence and communications. Squads of soldiers taking over city
blocks with the aid of "intelligence helmet" video screens that give
them an instantaneous overview of their environment, constitute the
military side. Bands of youth converging on targeted intersections in
constant dialogue on cell phones constitute the doctrine's civilian
application.
"This parallel should not be surprising since the US military and
National Security Agency subsidized the development of the Internet,
cellular phones, and software platforms. From their inception, these
technologies were studied and experimented with in order to find the
optimal use in a new kind of warfare. The "revolution" in warfare that
such new instruments permit has been pushed to the extreme by several
specialists in psychological warfare. Although these military utopians
have been working in high places, (for example the RAND Cor****ation),
for a very long time, to a large extent they only took over some of
the most im****tant command structures of the US military apparatus
with the victory of the neoconservatives in the Pentagon of Donald
Rumsfeld.14
Goal to control China
Wa****ngton policy has used and refined these techniques of
"revolutionary nonviolence," and NED operations embodied a series of
'democratic' or soft coup projects as part of a larger strategy which
would seek to cut China off from access to its vital external oil and
gas reserves.
The 1970's quote attributed to then-Secretary of State Henry
Kissinger, a proponent of British geopolitics in an American context
comes to mind: "If you control the oil you control entire nations..."
The destabilization attempt by Wa****ngton using Tibet, no doubt with
quiet "help" from its friends in British and other US-friendly
intelligence services, is part of a clear pattern.
It includes Wa****ngton's "Saffron revolution" attempts to destabilize
Myanmar. It includes the ongoing effort to get NATO troops into Darfur
to block China's access to strategically vital oil resources there and
elsewhere in Africa. It includes attempts to foment problems in
Uzbekistan, Kyrgystan and to disrupt China's vital new energy pipeline
projects to Kazakhstan. The earlier Asian Great Silk Road trade routes
went through Tashkent in Uzbekistan and Almaty in Kazakhstan for
geographically obvious reasons, in a region surrounded by major
mountain ranges. Geopolitical control of Uzbekistan, Kyrgystan,
Kazakhstan would enable control of any potential pipeline routes
between China and Central Asia just as the encirclement of Russia
controls pipeline and other ties between it and western Europe, China,
India and the Middle East, where China depends on uninterrupted oil
flows from Iran, Saudi Arabia and other OPEC countries.
Behind the strategy to encircle China
In this context, a revealing New York Council on Foreign Relations
analysis in their Foreign Affairs magazine from Zbigniew Brzezinski
from September/October 1997 is worth quoting. Brzezinski, a prot=E9g=E9 of
David Rockefeller and a follower of the founder of British
geopolitics, Sir Halford Mackinder, is today the foreign policy
adviser to Presidential candidate, Barack Obama. In 1997 he
revealingly wrote:
'Eurasia is home to most of the world's politically assertive and
dynamic states. All the historical pretenders to global power
originated in Eurasia. The world's most populous aspirants to regional
hegemony, China and India, are in Eurasia, as are all the potential
political or economic challengers to American primacy. After the
United States, the next six largest economies and military spenders
are there, as are all but one of the world's overt nuclear powers, and
all but one of the covert ones. Eurasia accounts for 75 percent of the
world's population; 60 percent of its GNP, and 75 percent of its
energy resources. Collectively, Eurasia's potential power overshadows
even America's.
'Eurasia is the world's axial super-continent. A power that dominated
Eurasia would exercise decisive influence over two of the world's
three most economically productive regions, Western Europe and East
Asia. A glance at the map also suggests that a country dominant in
Eurasia would almost automatically control the Middle East and Africa.
With Eurasia now serving as the decisive geopolitical chessboard, it
no longer suffices to fa****on one policy for Europe and another for
Asia. What happens with the distribution of power on the Eurasian
landmass will be of decisive im****tance to America's global
primacy....'15 (emphasis mine-w.e.).
This statement, written well before the US-led bombing of former
Yugoslavia and the US military occupations in Afghanistan and Iraq, or
its sup****t of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan Pipeline, puts Wa****ngton
pronouncements about 'ridding the world of tyranny' and about
spreading democracy, into a somewhat different context from the one
usually mentioned by George W. Bush of others.
It's about global hegemony, not democracy. It should be no surprise
when powers such as China are not convinced that giving Wa****ngton
such overwhelming power is in China's national interest, any more than
Russia thinks that it would be a step towards peace to let NATO gobble
up Ukraine and Georgia and put US missiles on Russia's doorstep "to
defend against threat of Iranian nuclear attack on the United
States."
The US-led destabilization in Tibet is part of a strategic ****ft of
great significance. It comes at a time when the US economy and the US
dollar, still the world's reserve currency, are in the worst crisis
since the 1930's. It is significant that the US Administration sends
Wall Street banker, former Goldman Sachs chairman, Henry Paulson to
Beijing in the midst of its efforts to embarrass Beijing in Tibet.
Wa****ngton is literally playing with fire. China long ago surpassed
Japan as the world's largest holder of foreign currency reserves, now
in the range of $1.5 trillions, most of which are invested in US
Treasury debt instruments. Paulson knows well that were Beijing to
decide it could bring the dollar to its knees by selling only a small
****tion of its US debt on the market.
Endnotes:
1 Ex-Nazi, Dalai's tutor Harrer dies at 93, The Times of India, 9 Jan
2006, in
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1363946,prtpage=
-1.cms.
2 Goodrick-Clarke, Nicholas, Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism
and the Politics of Identity, New York University Press, 2001, p. 177.
3 Goldner, Colin, M=F6nchischer Terror auf dem Dach der Welt Teil 1: Die
Begeisterung f=FCr den Dalai Lama und den tibetischen Buddhismus, March
26, 2008, excerpted from the book Dalai Lama: Fall eines Gottk=F6nigs,
Alibri Verlag,, new edition to appear April 2008, reproduced in
http://www.jungewelt.de/2008/03-27/006.php.
4 Parenti, Michael, Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth, June 2007, in
www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html.
5 Mann, Jim, CIA funded covert Tibet exile campaign in 1960s, The Age
(Australia), Sept. 16, 1998.
6 Ignatius, D., Innocence Abroad: The New World of Spyless Coups, The
Wa****ngton Post, 22 September 1991.
7 Blum, William, The NED and 'Project Democracy,' January 2000, in
www.friendsoftibet.org/databank/usdefence/usd5.html
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> >> And now we see the people of Tibet try to ask for change to stop
> >> genocide of their culture, and they get shot or arrested by Chinese
> >> occupiers.
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> >More of the same CIA created chaos and dissension to bring the Chinese
> >government down.
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> More of your lies with NO proof.
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> >> Do you wish to keep making a fool of yourself trying to defend the
> >> fact that the people of China and occupied Tibet have never been
> >> allowed to vote for their government leaders, and they get shot if
> >> they demand that basic human right?
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> >China is not ready for election. All these are CIA generated problems
> >China has to face and fend against on a daily basis.
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