Re: Sup****ter of the fascist unelected Chinese government Makes Fool of Himself

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:08:27 +0000 (UTC), netvegetable
<flavian@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:53:58 -0400, Raymond wrote:
>
>>>>>The real question is: Do you think they should have?
>>>> 
>>>> The answer is they already have.
>>>
>>>They do not. I can find you scores of accounts by Tibetans, and
visitors
>>>to Tibet, of people being beaten to death, arbitrarily arrested and
>>>shot.
>> 
>> Nothing but propaganda and lies. You are welcome to present them for
>> public evaluation though.
>> 
>
>Sure. 

I'm afraid all of them are propaganda materials which can not be
confirmed or validated.

>
>Here's an interview with a Tibetan refugee, who re****ts how people have 
>to leave Tibet in order to study Tibetan, or learn about Buddhism.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/5vmj6d
>
>Here's an account of two young men sentenced, at the Lhasa Intermediate 
>People's Court, to three years in prison simply for shouting "Free Tibet"

>and carrying the banned Tibetan flag.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/6fycff
>
>Here's an account of how an Australian climber who saw Tibetan refugees 
>being "shot like rats" by Chinese soldiers.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/ep9gv
>
>Here's the actual footage of them being "shot like rats".
>
>http://tinyurl.com/3u5pr6
>
>Here's some footage of Tibetan monks disrupting a controlled media tour 
>of Tibet, shouting slogans about freedom, complaining that they're not 
>allowed to tell the truth. According to to re****ter on the scene, three 
>of the monks were then promptly arrested by the journalist's minders, the

>journalists themselves were dragged away, and the monastery then 
>surrounded by armed troops. 
>
>http://tinyurl.com/44xf36
>
>Together with the loud protests and riots by Tibetans, and Tibetan 
>refugees, that we've all seen on TV, are all these people actors?
>
>> 
>>>> The top Tibetan official on TV is an
>>>> ethnic Tibetan.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>And what does that prove? That you have one Tibetan on your television.
>>>So what?
>> 
>> That one Tibetan is the governor of Tibet. He speaks for the people of
>> Tibet.
>
>How? Did the Tibetan people elect him? In free and fair elections?

Yes, in people's congress.

>
>> 
>> 
>>>> So the real question is: Do you think they should surrender their
>>>> human right to their former slave master?
>>>
>>>I think you have absolutely no right to decide for them.
>> 
>> The question is put to you. Do you have the right to decide for them?
>
>No I do not. Nor do you. It's a question that should be put to the 
>Tibetan people.

Then why haven't you done so? None of the people in western
demonstrations is a real Tibetan. Most of them were not born in Tibet
and have never been to Tibet. They aren't even residents of Tibet.