Re: Sup****ter of the fascist unelected Chinese government Makes Fool of Himself

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:53:18 -0700 (PDT), bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

>On Apr 11, 1:08?pm, netvegetable <flav...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:53:58 -0400, Raymond wrote:
>> >>>>The real question is: Do you think they should have?
>>
>> >>> The answer is they already have.
>>
>> >>They do not. I can find you scores of accounts by Tibetans, and
visitors
>> >>to Tibet, of people being beaten to death, arbitrarily arrested and
>> >>shot.
>>
>> > Nothing but propaganda and lies. You are welcome to present them for
>> > public evaluation though.
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>> Here's an interview with a Tibetan refugee, who re****ts how people have
>> to leave Tibet in order to study Tibetan, or learn about Buddhism.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/5vmj6d
>>
>> Here's an account of two young men sentenced, at the Lhasa Intermediate
>> People's Court, to three years in prison simply for shouting "Free
Tibet"
>> and carrying the banned Tibetan flag.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/6fycff
>>
>> Here's an account of how an Australian climber who saw Tibetan refugees
>> being "shot like rats" by Chinese soldiers.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ep9gv
>>
>> Here's the actual footage of them being "shot like rats".
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/3u5pr6
>>
>> Here's some footage of Tibetan monks disrupting a controlled media tour
>> of Tibet, shouting slogans about freedom, complaining that they're not
>> allowed to tell the truth. According to to re****ter on the scene, three
>> of the monks were then promptly arrested by the journalist's minders,
the
>> journalists themselves were dragged away, and the monastery then
>> surrounded by armed troops.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/44xf36
>>
>> Together with the loud protests and riots by Tibetans, and Tibetan
>> refugees, that we've all seen on TV, are all these people actors?
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> The top Tibetan official on TV is an
>> >>> ethnic Tibetan.
>>
>> >>And what does that prove? That you have one Tibetan on your
television.
>> >>So what?
>>
>> > That one Tibetan is the governor of Tibet. He speaks for the people
of
>> > Tibet.
>>
>> How? Did the Tibetan people elect him? In free and fair elections?
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> So the real question is: Do you think they should surrender their
>> >>> human right to their former slave master?
>>
>> >>I think you have absolutely no right to decide for them.
>>
>> > The question is put to you. Do you have the right to decide for them?
>>
>> No I do not. Nor do you. It's a question that should be put to the
>> Tibetan people.
>>
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>> conservatives." - John Stuart Mill
>
>I don't think it much matters what you present, as far as many of the
>Chinese chauvinists on this NG are concerned. They are capable of
>denying even the obvious of things if they make the Chinese government
>look bad.

Not at all. I need to see some real evidence. Narrated propaganda
material does not count. Empty talks and unexplainable suspicious
images can not be considered evidences.