Dear Gurshara,
Let me share what Jesus said
Matthew 7:15-20
Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so, every
good tree bringeth forth good
fruit, but a corrupt tree bringeth forth bad fruit. A good tree cannot
bring
forth bad fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every
tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into
the
fire. Wherefore, by their fruits ye shall know them."
Cheers
On Apr 7, 2:54 pm, gurshara...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> I agree that all religions lead to the same path and teach respecting
> fellow humans.
> But you need to go through the history books as well as the internet
> forums in details
> and find out why not only sikhs but the whole world(literally) are
> allergic to islam.
> It is true that it is the converts who are more fanatical of the
> islamists and you surely
> fall into the category.Even jesus christ/prophet/gautam buddha died
> either naturally or were killed
> but this does not mean that your use degratory language against these
> people.
> You may disagree with their teaching and are free to choose the
> religion of your choice
> but for heavens sake dont start spitting on these institutions which
> are a reason of
> pride for so many.
>
> AleXX wrote:
> > Not the same friend!
> > One is wearing songkok and the other is wearing turban !!
>
> > "nur" <arah1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
>news:ce890536-ae15-4344-a53d-01725769797c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > First off I just want to start off saying to anybody who might be
> > > thinking that I am a fake and pretending to make this story up. That
> > > in fact I am not, and I know sikhs will say alot of stuff, and I
know
> > > my muslim brothers and sisters
>
> > > (some not all) will think inside their head good haha a sikh
converted=
> > > to islam.
>
> > > But my conversion is nothing to rub in others face or to
discriminate
> > > against. I have posted this story for those sikhs who might be
> > > thinking about reverting but are not sure or need somebody to relate
> > > to. Because I sure know if I had that it would have made things
> > > clearer to me earlier.
>
> > > I grew up in a very religious sikh family in Canada. Although my
> > > parents were not amrit shak they were pretty religious, and so was
I.
> > > I went to the gudwara regularly did my seva, prayed. But I wasn't a
> > > full practicing sikh (i ate meat, cut my hair) but despite that I
was
> > > more religious then most young sikhs.
>
> > > Growing up I absolutly hated muslims. I cannot even begin to
emphasize=
> > > how much i actually did hate them. I hated Islam and everything that
> > > it stood for. I use to tell everybody to hate them as well. And it
> > > actually worked, my cousins my family friends. I would tell my
younger=
> > > cousins if they ever made friends with a muslim I would kick their
> > > ass.
>
> > > I picked on young muslim girls who wore Hijjab. I would find muslims
> > > online swear at them and at Islam (may allah forgive me).When ever I
> > > would have to write a paper it would be on Oppresion of women in
> > > Islam, and or how muslims are devil wor****ppers. My hate for them
was
> > > extreme I was gonna get a tatoo on my back in arabic writing saying
> > > all the muslims are gonna die.
>
> > > I think about it now as to why I hated muslims and islam so much and
> > > it seems clear to me. I was a proud Sikh Jatt girl,extremley proud.
> > > Whenever I would hear about what the guru's had to go through
because
> > > of the Mongols or that era I'd wanna kill a muslim. I would sit in
the=
> > > gudwara listen to the baba tell stories of the guru's and just get
> > > pissed.
>
> > > I don't know about gudwara's around the world but in Canada in the
> > > langar hall they ususally have so many paintings of muslims killing
> > > sikhs and the guru's. So one would sit there and stare at this and
be
> > > like #%*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
while eating their rotti.
>
> > > One day I met a Muslim guy at university,and we began going out. I
> > > don't know why I even went out with him but I did. Eventually we got
> > > married, my parents were okay with it. We Had a really nice wedding.
I=
> > > had already told him that I would die before becoming a muslim, and
he=
> > > was okay with that.
>
> > > As I stayed in their home the first few months of my married life. I
> > > began to see them as people. They were actually nice people. They
> > > never once asked me to convert which surprised me. His father was
very=
> > > religious, I use to often see him praying or having religious talks
> > > with my husband.
>
> > > Even though I had decided okay maybe muslims are nice..but i was
still=
> > > like hell no Im a Proud Sikh girl, I use to wear my Kara with pride,
> > > never ate halal brought my non halal meat for myself.
>
> > > One day I was like hmm let me find out what islam is. I began
reading
> > > about it. found it very interesting. It was nothing like I thought
it
> > > was. It made so much sense to me. But that wasn't gonna change me
> > > being a Sikh.
>
> > > One day I asked my husband to have a debate with me about sikhism
and
> > > islam. My husband never wins debates but he won this one. So i
thought=
> > > maybe im not that knowledgable in sikhism. I began taking cl*****
and
> > > studied it day in day out.
>
> > > The more I studied it the more I got scared, the fact that Islam
might=
> > > be the right religon shook me. I couldn't give it up, my pride this
is=
> > > who I was a sikh, my anncestors faught to their death so they could
> > > keep their faith.
>
> > > Here is some of what i learned.....
>
> > > 1) Sikhism doesn't believe in prophethood
>
> > > since i was a little I asked my mom why did muslims kill our gods?
He
> > > was god mom why didn't god kill the muslims. My mom's answer was he
> > > wanted to show them.. show them what mom? her answer was shut up u
ask=
> > > to many questions! I did further research and found out that this
was
> > > part of guru's plans if they wanted they could have done magic but
did=
> > > not want to.. sureee okay.
>
> > > why would god allow mere humans to kill him?
>
> > > So god can die?
>
> > > If god can't protect himself how is he gonna help me?
>
> > > god bleeds like me?
>
> > > Then some say they were sent down from the akal purath to show the
way=
> > > they had a part of god in them. Fiar enough but first off thats
wrong
> > > guru granth says that it denounces prophethood. Secondly if only a
> > > part of god is with them then why do we wor****p his creation why not
> > > wor****p the almighty himself. Thats like saying imma go wor****p my
> > > mom. Don't even deny it you know ur parents are sure enough to have
> > > pictures of guru Na**** and guru gobind singh ji somewhere in the
> > > house. And u know ur parents fold their hand and pray to them.
>
> > > When i use to read Nitnama Bani, I use to read passages which said I
> > > seek protection under guru gobind singh ji's sword. Guru Gobind
singh
> > > ji died, if he couldn't protect himself with his own sword i don't
> > > think that sword is gonna do much for me or anybody else.
>
> > > 2) Sikhism is confused about believing in one god
>
> > > Guru Na**** Dev Ji was the one who said ik onkar (there is 1 god).
But
> > > Asking my parents and varoius Baba's at the gudwara and even
> > > discovering it myself. that in fact Ik onkar means all the guru's
are
> > > one. Maybe Guru Na**** did mean there is one god but afterwards
> > > something happened along the way?
>
> > > 3) Guru Na**** was a muslim!!
>
> > > Guru Na****'s chola which is kept by a chosen Gursikh family has in
> > > arabic the words written on it La illa ilallah muhhamdur rusool
allah.=
> > > It is said he gave it to his followers. There are pictures of it on
> > > the internet if you think I am lying. He went to mecca medina which
> > > everybody knows.
>
> > > If u are a muslim u very well know no non-muslims are aloud there.
> > > It's strictly for believers only. There is story which says Guru
Na****=
> > > was sleeping with his feet towards the Kabbah when he arrived at
mecca=
> > > and a man asked him to move his feet. when the man would turn the
feet=
> > > of Guru Na**** his feet would go back in the same place facing the
> > > Kabbah. And supposably the man was shocked and thought Guru Na****
was
> > > a saint.
>
> > > This story cann't make sense at all!!
>
> > > First off If that were true and Na**** had his feet in the direction
of=
> > > the kabbah they would have killed him no questions asked. Its tottal
> > > disrespect, and besides why would he come all that way to do hajj
and
> > > then disrespect it like that. It just makes no sense.
>
> > > Mecca is an extremly religious place u can't just expect to do that
> > > and nothing happen to you. If guru Na**** thought the Kabbah was
> > > nothing then he would not have made the trouble to do pilgrimage
> > > there. If he claims there is no hindu no muslims why did he go
perform=
> > > hajj.
>
> > > When you perform Hajj your very lucky if you get some string from
the
> > > Kabbah which he did and those very strings are in a gudwara in
India.
> > > I've seen them for myself.
>
> > > 4) Guru Amar Das changed things
>
> > > Its believed by many that he changed alot of guru Na****s writings
> > > around and or added his own thing in.
>
> > > 5) Why is it all the sikh gods died?
>
> > > 6) Sikhism and Hinduism very alike
>
> > > For those who do not already know the geeta has very digusting
things
> > > in it, hindu's don't like to admit it but Kama sutra is considered
> > > religious text. Hindu's are idol wor****pers. There are stories of
> > > their gods jerking off we dont need to get into detail. Guru Granth
> > > praises the Hindu gods, talks about them.
>
> > > Why is this that the guru granth can even have these idol gods and
> > > perverted gods in a sikh book. There are passages that talk about
> > > hinduism and thier gods and their wor****ps basically not denoucing
it
> > > saying it too is a way of wor****p
>
> > > Also my mom told me That there was this hindu god I dunno her name
she=
> > > had a small mandir and there was a big gudwara next to it, she said
to=
> > > one of the guru's. Ur temple is so big nobody will come to my mandir
> > > it is so small. From that day forth guru said to her from now on for
> > > those who come to wor****p at this temple have to first go to the
> > > mandir and pray there.
>
> > > Sikhs in india actually do that today and even have this godesses
> > > picture in thier house its the one with the multiple arms.
>
> > > 7) Sikhs believe all religons is a way to god
>
> > > If this is so then why were the guru's so against islam. I mean
wasn't=
> > > it them
>
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