Re: Would "sitting down with Dalai Lama" solve the human right issue in China?

On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:05:53 -0700, tankfixer
<paul.carrier@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>In article <j8r7045n4hin1kmdt2ttja01okpk6qpmie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, niday@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
>says...
>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:04:19 -0700 (PDT), bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> 
>> >On Apr 12, 4:08?pm, Raymond <ni...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 17:53:21 -0500, netvegetable <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>> >> >On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 18:35:46 -0400, Raymond wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:32:41 -0500, netvegetable <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>>On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:51:25 +0200, J.Venning wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>>> "Heywood Floyd" <Heywood.Fl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> >> >>>>news:MPG.226ae75a4b23d39598a64e@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >>>>> China has been in Tibet since 1951 for **** sakes!
>> >>
>> >> >>>> ? ? Have a look at this:
>> >> >>>>http://www.index-china.com/index-english/Tibet-s.html.
I'm too
old
>> >> >>>> and lazy to copy and paste the whole article here. J.
>> >>
>> >> >>>Just as well, because your argument would probably fall on deaf
ears.
>> >>
>> >> >>>Almost nobody in the West cares whether China has a territorial
claim
>> >> >>>over Tibet, or that the claim is 700 years old. It's irrelevant.
>> >>
>> >> >> Then what is relevant? The people of Tibet are free. Tibetans are
in
>> >> >> control of their lives. The governor of Tibet is a Tibetan who is
>> >> >> elected by Tibetan people. Local government officials are mostly
>> >> >> Tibetans. There are Tibetan doctors, Tibetan lawyers, Tibetan
judges,
>> >> >> Tibetan teachers, Tibetan police officers, Tibetan village
chiefs,
>> >> >> Tibetan hotel and restaurant owners,... All the im****tant social
>> >> >> positions in Tibetan society are occupied by ethnic Tibetans.
These
>> >> >> Tibetans are living a free and prosperous life. What more do you
want
>> >> >> them to have?
>> >>
>> >> >I have done all I can to educate you. I have shown you do***ented
>> >> >interviews, accounts of do***ented court cases from your own
country,
>> >> >written accounts, and even video evidence, and you just arbitrarily
>> >> >dismiss it as lies or propaganda, without providing any evidence of
your
>> >> >own.
>> >>
>> >> >I ask you why the media isn't allowed into Tibet, and all I get
back is
>> >> >some flowery, nebulous, metaphorical horse**** about Tibet being
your
>> >> >private bedroom.
>> >>
>> >> >You have your head so firmly bunkered up your own arse, that it is
>> >> >impossible for you to see daylight, and I honestly wonder why you
bother
>> >> >participating in these forums. I wonder if you might be some sort
of paid
>> >> >****ll for CCP (though severely overpaid in my opinion). Either that
or
>> >> >this is some sort of bizarre form of Chinese street theatre.
>> >>
>> >> What's the matter? Having nothing to say about what I wrote?
>> >
>> >Au contraire, he has been more than reasonable in responding to you.
>> >And has been far more rational and honest with his responses.
>> 
>> I don't think so. I think he turned tail and run from my simple facts
>> of today's Tibetan society. People like you in the west are a bunch of
>> moral hypocrites. You have no interest in the real situation in Tibet.
>> You only want to imagine things to accuse the Chinese government when
>> it's the evil Lamas who have been engaging in violence and criminal
>> acts. You want to protect the criminals, while you still shamelessly
>> claim you have the moral high ground to accuse the Chinese government.
>> The stupidity of you westerners is beyond human comprehension. You
>> have always been the savages of mankind since the colonial time. The
>> western civilization is dying. May you and your western civilization
>> die in your own unspeakable evil and leave the rest of mankind alone.
>> The day will come when all evil will end. The day will come when the
>> tears of sorrow will become the tears of joy. The day will come when
>> justice will be served and no liars and criminals are going to escape
>> their ultimate doom. That day is near. You can count on it.
>
>How easy it is for you to sit fat dumb and happy here in the west and 
>act like you are morally superior.

Considering the western lies that have caused so many wars all over
the world again and again, I am morally superior than all of you by
being a person from the peaceful Middle Kingdom. The blood of those
who died in you imperialists wars will forever stain your hands until
your evil soul is consumed by the eternal fire of hell.

>
>And be careful what you wish for, that death you wish on western 
>civilization might just swallow you up too...

When that happens, you can be sure it will be the happiest day of my
life.