On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 08:53:01 -0700, ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>> > If there is such an overarching "principle of self-dtermination" is
>> > of suh im****tance, then your government and other governments should
>> > terminate diplomatic relation****p with Beijing unless Tibet has self-
>> > determined. As a matter of fact, I believe your goverment's official
>> > positon is "Tibet is part of China."
>>
>> You are actually quite correct, though you may not realize it. Morally,
>> Australia should break off all ties with Beijing.
>
> OK. Should the same morality also require Austrialian government to
> return Austrialia to the arborigins?
It should be applied where ever, and whenever, possible. Why does China
refuse to apply it in Tibet?
>
>> And if I want to I can
>> publicly advocate that. People in Tibet, however, get locked up for
>> speaking their minds.
>
> Why not? I always make more sense to me. People should ask what they can
> do and what their governmetn can do rather do making demand on an other
> country. bTW, in case you decide to ask your government to return
> Australis to the arborigins, please inform.
Will do. Meanwhile if you're going to continue to post silly propaganda
about Tibet on aus.politics, I will continue to speak my mind, and I will
continue to cut through your bull****. Like your government, you only
have yourself to blame.
>> >> >> Luckily for you
>> >> >> though, they got locked up for speaking their mind, if not
>> >> >> killed.
>>
>> >> > I heard that all the time. But I am still waiting for someone to
>> >> > say that he or she knows the above is indeed a fact.
>>
>> >> Well I know it's a fact.
>>
>> >> Here's an account of two young men sentenced, at the Lhasa
>> >> Intermediate People's Court, to three years in prison simply for
>> >> shouting "Free Tibet" and carrying the banned Tibetan flag.
>>
>> >>http://tinyurl.com/6fycff
>>
>> > AI does not hve re****ters inside China. Their re****ts are
>> > unsbstrantiated and unsubstantiable.
>>
>> He was tried in a public court, ergo it should be a matter of public
>> record that you could probably check on if you wanted to. But, of
>> course, you won't will you? Because you don't want to know.
>
> I did not subscribe to AI. Please look up the court record and post it.
I don't need to. I have more than enough evidence to show that Tibetans
are persecuted for speaking their minds, and therefore you have no right
to say "no comment" or anything else on their behalf. It is you who needs
educating, but you prefer to wallow in ignorance.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> Here's the case of Ronggyal Adrak, jailed for 8 years simply for
>> >> shouting "Long Live the Dallai Lama!" at a racing festival.
>>
>> >>http://tinyurl.com/6zkq2o
>>
>> >> Want to see extrajudicial execution? Here's a video of your gallant
>> >> troops shooting unarmed Tibetans like dogs.
>>
>> >>http://tinyurl.com/6gtm9e-
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