On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:46:17 -0700, bluej wrote:
> On Apr 23, 2:29 pm, oxtail <oxt...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:17:50 -0700, bluej wrote:
>> > On Apr 23, 1:04 pm, oxtail <oxt...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:46:56 -0700, jimzorn wrote:
>> >> >> Belief is not a basis for proof or for truth. You need more
than
>> >> >> one or two uncorroborated anecdotes, which could be lies, to
>> >> >> establish that something is taking place. Otherwise you are a
>> >> >> propogandist and nothing more.
>>
>> >> > I gave you four references: Kawaguchi, the Nazi expedition to
>> >> > Tibet, Michael Parenti, and the book by a Tibetan who was abused
>> >> > as a boy in Tibet. Although I can't post the entirety of this
>> >> > content here, it is readily available through an online search.
>>
>> >> > The reason these kind of things went on in the Catholic church for
>> >> > so long is because nobody wanted to admit or believe such things
>> >> > could happen. This is usually the case in ***ual abuse.
>>
>> >> > I'm not a propagandist, I'm a person just like you who is here to
>> >> > discuss these things. I used to believe in Tibetan independence,
>> >> > but now believe that it would only hurt the Tibetans.
>>
>> >> I don't care much about nationalism.
>> >> But I care deeply about the freedom of speech. No one should be
>> >> killed or jailed
>> >> for participating in a peaceful demonstration. What the Chinese are
>> >> doing in Tibet is simply not acceptable.
>>
>>
>> > Avail yourself to some recent footage and news re****ts from western
>> > re****ters. Monks are free to rant and protest the hell of it. Make no
>> > mistake that the target of the recent riot is Han-Chinese and their
>> > businesses, and many Tibetan Chinese were maimed and looted in the
>> > process as well. This riot is just a recent example of the long
>> > history of Tibetan separatists terrorist acts. Will you be as
>> > sympathetic if the separatists are Islamic?
>>
>> How many monks did you arrest?
>>
>
> I would have a correct count of arrests for you if only CNN didn't use
> the video shot at a different time showing Nepalnese police arresting
> Tibetan monks and pretended it as a Tibet 'crack down' footage. By the
> way the footage was still used by Jack Cafferty, the bigot who called
> Chinese 'goons and thugs' on TV, as he vented his anticommunism and
> anti-Chinese chauvinism on TV.
Just give me your statistics.
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oxtail
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