On Apr 27, 11:53 pm, Monster <dku04...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 27, 10:30 pm, "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Ahmad" <othm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 27, 4:40 pm, Monster <dku04...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Apr 26, 2:00 pm, "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Ahmad" <othm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > So don't blame the Chinese and the Indians. It is the bumiputera
> > > politicians who are corrupting the country, enriching themselves at
> > > the expense of their constituents. Who put them there in the first
> > > place - certainly not me.
> > Are they given the affirmative action?
The above is not the postion of my question. You've dishonestly moved
it to this paragraph making it out of context completely.
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> You know better than me that they are given affirmative action - I
You are lying. You've no proof whatsoever that this is happening.
Officially they are not supposed to be given unless they have good
results in the exams and are not rich enough.
Despite going overseas myself under this affirmative action, I've not
seen any clear evidence that this is happening. It may not even be
UMNO members who are misusing the system but corrupt government
officials.
One of my college mates argue that a few rich Malays may not want to
spend money to send their children overseas because they think that it
is not worth it. By rich, I take it to mean, holding a high government
position or having assets in millions, not billions.
Most of them are qualified although some failed in UK. Some of those
who failed may even be straight A students. They suffer from mental
problems.
> really have nothing against the affirmative action that was given.
> However, the help given to these people was small compared to that
> given to those in the Malay ruling class. As you well know, the kids
This is most probably a lie because I don't see any clear evidence of
this.
> of well-off Malays were given scholar****ps to study overseas and in
> good universities, while Mister Average Bumiputera Scholar had to put
> up with studying in local universities (if at all).
Definitely false. My son was offered overseas loans/scholar****ps but
he chose to study locally under Petronas sponsor****p which consists of
a loan which can be converted into a bond, which they call
Scholar****p.
At UTP, a few students have a rich parent, i.e. own a small factory,
so that each of them were given a new Satria Neo car.
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> Let's get something straight, I am all for affirmative action, it
> makes society fairer as a whole and one would expect that those who
> have been helped will in turn help others. Unfortunately, the reality
> is that the majority of those who have benefited from government
> scholar****ps have not bothered honoring their bonds or paying back
This is again a lie. I have never met anyone who have broken their
bonds.
Nowadays, it is all loans, no longer bonds, so they can choose their
employers that allow them to repay their loans. That is why many have
refused to return to Malaysia.
> their loans.
This is again completely false. If you don't pay your loans, your
names will be published in newspapers, even if it is only RM1,000.
This happened to a colleague of mine.
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> > And yet you blame only one party, the Malays, and not those who
> > actually pay the bribes, and thus perpetuating the briberies.
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> As I've said it take twos to tango, and obviously both parties need to
> share the blame for this. That said, it wasn't the Chinese
> businessmen who did away with the checks and balances which are
> required in a parliamentary democracy. Who did away with the
> independent press, the independent judiciary and the opposition? And
> who kept those people there???
You cannot blame UMNO or any of the BN high officials always. Some are
due to government officials.
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