On Apr 28, 8:36=A0pm, "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Ahmad" <othm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
> On Apr 28, 7:30 pm, Monster <dku04...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > The above is not the postion of my question. You've dishonestly
moved
> > > it to this paragraph making it out of context completely.
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> > As far as I can see, your statement "Are they given the affirmative
> > action?" relates to my comment that a lot of my esteemed bumiputera
> > colleagues are still relatively poor despite affirmative action. =A0So
> > where is the lie in my reply.
>
> > > You are lying. You've no proof whatsoever that this is happening.
> > > Officially they are not supposed to be given unless they have good
> > > results in the exams and are not rich enough.
>
> > You are the one who's lying. =A0Or perhaps you are just blind. =A0Of
> > course, the operative word here is "Officially". =A0Officially,
Malaysia=
> > Boleh. =A0Officially, the government and all politicians are clean,
> > incorruptible, efficient and selfless in their vision to create a
> > Bangsa Malaysia. =A0It is what is happening unofficially that makes
the
> > world of difference. =A0I used to work with a Malay colleague whose
>
> So you believe that 100% of the happenings in Malaysia are all
> unofficial, and that none of the official policies are actually
> followed?
>
> Then you are surely lying.
>
> > father was a Malaysian ambassador, no less. =A0Yes he had a government
> > scholar****p. =A0When I asked how come my parents, as humble civil
> > servants, could send five children to overseas universities while his
> > father, on an ambassador's income, couldn't afford to send one son to
> > study in the US, his reply was that it was expensive to send people to
> > study there.
>
> Have you ever considered the salary of a Malaysian ambassador?
> If a MInister's salary is only RM10,000/month, how much do you think
> the salary of an Ambassador is? And this is clean, taxable income, no
> capital allowances at all.
>
> In fact, even a Minister cannot afford to send their children
> overseas, if they rely on government salaries.
>
>
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> > I am all in favour of the government giving scholar****ps to bumiputera
> > students to better their op****tunities overseas, and I really do wish
> > them well. =A0However, I do think that there are perhaps other
> > bumiputera in greater need than my former colleague.
>
> It all depends on their results. I'm sure the Ambassador's son does
> not want to be given the so called "scholar****p" because it is bonded,
> and had to be paid back, and subject to so many restrictions.
>
>
>
> > > This is again a lie. I have never met anyone who have broken their
> > > bonds.
>
> > I have. =A0The place I used to work - one of the largest
multinationals
> > and amongst the country's top tax-payers - is full of them. =A0Want
some=
> > names???
>
> Why don't you give them?
>
> For your info, the bonding had been replaced by "loans" many years
> ago.
>
> For JPA scholars, during the bonding time, if they cannot give them
> jobs in the public sector, they allow them to work for any company in
> Malaysia. Even Shell scholars were bonded this way. One was even
> released from the bonding because Shell cannot give him a job.
>
> That is why, there is no more bonding, only loans, in lieu of bonding.
>
>
>
> > > You cannot blame UMNO or any of the BN high officials always. Some
are=
> > > due to government officials.
>
> > I agree, some unscrupulous government officials have played their part
> > in corrupting the country. =A0I also accept that it is not the UMNO
> > organisation or the BN which is to blame. =A0However, the fact remains
> > that over the past 25 years, 1) the free press has been de-fanged; 2)
> > the judiciary has been neutered and 3) the opposition (up to GE12) has
> > been bullied into submission. =A0This may well have been the
> > responsibility of one or two people in power. =A0Unfortunately, in
> > turning a blind eye to this excess, UMNO and the BN machinery are
> > complicit in allowing the country to go down the drain.
>
> You have a point and many will agree with you.
>
>
>
> > But hey, don't take my word for it - ask the 50% of the voters who did
> > not vote BN this time around.
>
> But it has nothing to do with any failure of NEP.
Well - if a minister earns "only" RM10,000 per month, then you can
imagine how much two teachers can get in a month.
Just to set the record straight, I am in favour of the NEP. The
vision of giving the poor and the less fortunate a leg up is an
admirable one. It is the way the policy has been abused that
disappoints me.
As the saying goes, when you give a man a fish you feed him only
once. When you teach a man how to fish, you feed him forever. This,
I believe, is the challenge of the NEP.
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