Re: The endless debate...

On Apr 30, 8:34=A0am, "fyfp...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <fyfp...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> When people refuse to face truth, all sides can keep arguing endlessly
> and there will be no result.
>
> I think the truth regarding Tibet is as follows:
> (1) CCP did free the slaves in Tibet when it first came to Tibet
> (2) Mao did turn the Tibetans, together with the people in other
> provinces of China, into slaves again for a new slave owner named Mao.
> (3) CCP is now called Chinese Capitalist Party and is doing a
> wonderful job in lifting many Tibetans out of poverty and turning them
> into petty bourgeois.
>
> While the Tibet independence activists refuse to admit (1) and (3),
> the nationalist Chinese students refuse to admit (2), and the West
> refuses to admit (3).

There is also
(4) Many Tibetans in Tibet are unhappy with Chinese rule

The Chinese government and its apologists like LT Lee refuse to admit
(4).

http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/the-wishes-of-a-tibetan/

> So what is the point of debate? =A0Might as well call it adjourned.
>
> Lunch time!

Or admit that 1-4 are all true and try to understand that China needs
to acknowledge that there is a big problem there. The West should
accept (3) and I think in general it has. But by denying (4) the
Chinese government denies reality. This inevitably leads to big
problems because the society is not anywhere nearly as "harmonious" as
the Chinese government says it is.