On 5=D4=C21=C8=D5, =C9=CF=CE=E73=CA=B122=B7=D6, bmo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On Apr 30, 8:34 am, "fyfp...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <fyfp...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > When people refuse to face truth, all sides can keep arguing endlessly
> > and there will be no result.
>
> > I think the truth regarding Tibet is as follows:
> > (1) CCP did free the slaves in Tibet when it first came to Tibet
> > (2) Mao did turn the Tibetans, together with the people in other
> > provinces of China, into slaves again for a new slave owner named Mao.
> > (3) CCP is now called Chinese Capitalist Party and is doing a
> > wonderful job in lifting many Tibetans out of poverty and turning them
> > into petty bourgeois.
>
> > While the Tibet independence activists refuse to admit (1) and (3),
> > the nationalist Chinese students refuse to admit (2), and the West
> > refuses to admit (3).
>
> There is also
> (4) Many Tibetans in Tibet are unhappy with Chinese rule
>
> The Chinese government and its apologists like LT Lee refuse to admit
> (4).
>
> http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/04/the-wishes-of-a-tibetan/
>
> > So what is the point of debate? Might as well call it adjourned.
>
> > Lunch time!
>
> Or admit that 1-4 are all true and try to understand that China needs
> to acknowledge that there is a big problem there. The West should
> accept (3) and I think in general it has. But by denying (4) the
> Chinese government denies reality. This inevitably leads to big
> problems because the society is not anywhere nearly as "harmonious" as
> the Chinese government says it is.
There had to be a thick layer of discontent before it could be ignited
to cause so much destruction. I am not sure if this level of
discontent is due to the 'Chinese rule' and whether the discontent
would have disappeared under the rule of Dalai Lama. What I can do is
to speculate on the reason. I think the reason is that many Tibetans
feel they have been marginalized in the modernization process. I
heard from a very authoritative source that most businesses in Lhasa
are owned by non-natives such as the Hans and the Muslims. That said,
it would simply suggest that the central government has not done a
satisfactory job in terms of income redistribution in order to even
out the fallouts from economic development. In the West, there are
programs such as Affirmative Action programs meant to redress the
issue, and have been there with various debatable outcomes.
On the other hand, too much government interference can cause the
natives to become a bunch of welfare recipients, or something no one
wants to see...
Thus the issue does not have much to do with human rights, religious
freedom and the other jazz....
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