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Re: Development Race: China and India

by "bikini" <bikini@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 01:09 PM

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India are also doing the same thing. Reserving vacancies to the lowest =
caste.
  "pg" <penang@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message =
news:7f2dab54-91f2-410b-afac-7b95429cc39f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On May 5, 8:17 pm, Wakalukong <wakaluk...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
  > On May 5, 4:26 pm, RichAsianKid <richasian...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
  >
  > > On May 4, 11:10 pm, PaPaPeng <PaPaP...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
  >
  > > > It will be nice if India can catch up with China.  We don't know =
the
  > > > full consequences but it is probably good.  The key phrase is =
'India
  > > > is on the cusp of something big' which is the position Indian =
had been
  > > > stuck at for the past 60 years.
  >
  > > > Tiger economies are snapping at US heelsBut it's not clear =
whether
  > > > Beijing or New Delhi will catch up first
  >
  > > > Richard Wachman
  > > > The Observer,
  >
  > (snip)
  > ----------
  >
  > Comparison between China and India is just a sideshow; the US is =
still
  > the country to beat economically.  If we base our *****sment on how
  > free and how open to talent an economy is and will be, then the US
  > will still be ahead for a long time.  On present and foreseeable
  > factors, the only ones who can cause America to topple from the top
  > are Americans themselves.
  >
  > Wakalukong


  From a person who have spent 20+ years in the US, I'll tell you that
  US ain't _that_ free.

  True, comparitively it's much freer than many Asian countries, but it
  ain't free.

  Many Asian students are NOT allowed admission to top schools such as
  UCLA, Stanford, MIT, Harvard, Princeton and son on simply because they
  are Asians. Racial discrimination? You bet.

  But in the US, they turn the thing around --- accusing the Asians
  being too bright, that the Asian kids are taking up all the slots,
  causing the poor black kids to lose their chance on education.

  Bull****? You bet.

  But in the US, they turn THAT around again --- saying that they need
  to reserve slots for the poor black kids because it is only "fair"
  that the black kids got to study in Princeton. Having said that, those
  black kids that got into the top schools just don't have the caliber
  to compete. So how they finish school? What else? "Race Card", again.

  They (black kids) get to graduate with inflated scores. But this time,
  the one who inflated the scores aren't the lecturers, it's the school
  admin who doctored the scoresheet (might as well calling it score****)
  to let those black kids attain graduation.

  Ever wonder why that Condoleezza Rice being so dumb yet can get top
  honor degree? Read the above.

  So now she got the post of the Secretary of State of the United States
  of America.

  Poor Uncle Sam.
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Re: Jim Walsh Concedes There Are Differences
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-26 16:42:14 
Re: Jim Walsh Concedes There Are Differences
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-26 16:48:19 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-26 17:38:34 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-27 13:51:38 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-26 17:54:18 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-27 13:51:31 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-27 13:51:36 
Re: Jim Walsh Concedes There Are Differences
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-26 18:03:07 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-26 18:29:46 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-27 13:51:37 
Re: A Filipino Maid's Son Poem...
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-26 18:31:45 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-27 15:24:51 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-28 21:17:49 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-27 15:28:13 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-28 21:17:46 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-27 15:31:17 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-28 21:17:40 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-27 15:36:04 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-28 21:17:44 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-27 15:37:33 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-28 21:17:47 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-27 15:40:52 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-27 15:54:15 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-28 21:17:43 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-28 13:44:51 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-28 14:07:43 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-28 14:33:14 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-28 16:42:10 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 14:34:56 
MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black Differ
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-28 22:33:14 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black Di
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 14:19:26 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black Di
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 14:34:55 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-28 22:40:12 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 14:34:59 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 14:35:00 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 14:35:01 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-28 22:44:35 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 14:34:57 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-28 22:56:24 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 14:34:52 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 14:34:53 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-28 23:12:04 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 23:58:22 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 23:58:24 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 23:58:25 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-28 23:15:48 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 23:58:21 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-29 09:28:33 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-30 01:34:53 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-29 17:53:55 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-29 18:10:42 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-29 18:34:42 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-29 19:50:29 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-29 20:01:28 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-30 12:02:58 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-30 12:10:10 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-30 12:25:42 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-30 16:00:00 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-01 18:04:30 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-30 16:00:30 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-30 16:01:29 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-01 18:04:35 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-30 16:07:20 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-01 18:04:33 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-30 16:14:13 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-01 18:04:31 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-30 16:22:49 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-01 18:04:32 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-30 16:31:40 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-01 18:04:26 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-30 18:10:10 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-31 00:25:01 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-31 00:35:47 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-31 10:30:07 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-31 15:19:01 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-31 15:28:10 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-31 15:41:24 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-31 19:02:40 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-01 01:09:55 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-01 13:37:22 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-01 13:48:34 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-01 14:02:06 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-01 15:54:43 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-01 17:11:35 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-01 17:20:46 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-02 17:32:48 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-02 17:38:18 
Re: Jim Walsh Failed Stats?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-03 14:12:55 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-02 17:44:24 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-02 17:45:44 
Pride goes before a fall
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-03 14:12:54 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-02 17:50:31 
I Love everyone, the best I can.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-03 14:12:49 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-02 18:01:50 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-03 14:12:52 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-03 14:07:50 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-03 14:18:06 
Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family More
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-04 21:55:15 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-05 13:52:58 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-04 22:03:02 
Get Real
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-05 13:52:56 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-05 13:52:57 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-04 22:14:19 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-04 22:20:58 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-05 13:52:55 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-04 22:38:01 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-05 08:15:20 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-05 08:37:01 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-05 09:14:31 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-05 09:19:21 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-05 09:27:25 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-07 00:49:32 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-07 17:15:18 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-07 17:15:17 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-07 17:15:19 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-07 00:51:44 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-07 17:15:10 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-07 01:04:13 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-07 17:15:15 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-07 02:26:59 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-07 18:10:15 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-07 02:28:15 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-07 18:09:52 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-07 02:30:08 
RAK is a silly boy, isn't he.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-07 18:10:29 
Wow, Japan impresses me
bear@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-06-08 08:23:34 
Haha, Jim Walsh on Stage
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-07 02:31:56 
Re: Haha, Jim Walsh on Stage
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-07 18:10:21 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
israeliteknight <israe  2008-06-07 15:37:28 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-07 23:46:10 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-08 15:55:45 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-07 23:50:32 
Re: Haha, Jim Walsh on Stage
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-07 23:53:30 
Re: Haha, Jim Walsh on Stage
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-08 15:55:42 
Re: RAK is a silly boy, isn't he.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-07 23:53:46 
Re: RAK is a silly boy, isn't he.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-08 15:55:44 
Re: Seeking Confirmation: Jim Walsh Does Not Love His Family Mor
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-07 23:54:35 
Zimbabwe, South Africa, Liberalism etc....
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 00:16:36 
Re: Jim Walsh's BIG Lie re: Cavalli-Sforza
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 00:27:03 
A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-08 15:55:58 
The Latest on Zimbabwe!
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 00:33:20 
Re: Zimbabwe, South Africa, Liberalism etc....
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 00:45:59 
Re: Zimbabwe, South Africa, Liberalism etc....
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-08 16:00:43 
Re: Haha, Jim Walsh on Stage
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 19:11:30 
Re: Haha, Jim Walsh on Stage
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 10:34:01 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 19:22:00 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 10:34:04 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 10:34:03 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 19:32:24 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 10:41:12 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 10:51:47 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 10:41:16 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 10:41:13 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 10:41:15 
Re: Wow, Japan impresses me
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 19:43:36 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-06-08 19:49:43 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 10:54:25 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 19:53:13 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 11:02:15 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 19:55:57 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 11:11:27 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 19:57:38 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 11:10:39 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 19:58:43 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 11:11:24 
Re: Haha, Jim Walsh on Stage
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 19:59:24 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 20:04:36 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 11:17:35 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-06-08 20:06:47 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 11:17:38 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 20:08:26 
Re: MUST READ: Jim Walsh's BIGGEST Lie re: Gould, White/Black
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 11:17:39 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 20:18:51 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 20:30:17 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 13:17:38 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-08 20:35:06 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-09 13:17:39 
Question: Has Jim Walsh Visited Sichuan Yet If He Does Not Love
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-10 00:12:05 
Question: Has Jim Walsh Visited Sichuan Yet If He Does Not Love
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-10 00:12:23 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-10 00:47:53 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-10 23:00:21 
RAK, has you told Jim Walsh your true ethnic background yet exce
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-10 00:51:33 
Re: RAK, has you told Jim Walsh your true ethnic background yet
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-06-10 07:47:29 
Re: RAK, has you told Jim Walsh your true ethnic background yet
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-10 08:02:38 
Re: A new beginning, disproving the existence of races.
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-10 08:08:11 
Re: RAK, has you told Jim Walsh your true ethnic background yet
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-06-10 08:13:19 
Re: RAK, has you told Jim Walsh your true ethnic background yet
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-06-10 08:43:37 
Re: RAK, has you told Jim Walsh your true ethnic background yet
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-06-10 08:57:30 
Re: RAK, has you told Jim Walsh your true ethnic background yet
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-