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Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?

by "fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 12, 2008 at 12:54 AM

On 5=D4=C212=C8=D5, =CF=C2=CE=E73=CA=B152=B7=D6, "Peter Webb"
<webbfam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> <fyfp...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>
> news:314890dd-6adf-4bb1-a5b1-4b91c6f08234@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On 5=D4=C212=C8=D5, =CF=C2=CE=E73=CA=B119=B7=D6, "Peter Webb"
<webbfam...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > > **************
> > > Freedom to elect their own leaders. Freedom to set their own
economic
> > > policies, including the freedom to mint their own currency and
control=

> > > foreign trade. Freedom of press, of association. There's more, but
the=
y
> > > would certainly be on my list of "freedoms" that I am referring to.
>
> > Are these their desired freedoms or your freedoms, or even the
> > freedoms of the CIA agents who put them up to it?  Why take a few
> > individuals who are part of a plot to undermine China's stabilities?
> > Why don't you ask the majority of the Tibetans who are happy and
> > satisfied, and don't give a damn about the Dalai Lama?
>
> > ***************
> > Because I can't run an election or referendum on this subject in
Tibet.
> > China can, though. Why don't they ask the Tibetan people if they want
> > independence? Its an excellent question you asked - why doesn't the
> > Chinese
> > government ask Tibetans what they want, and go along with the majority
> > position?
>
> In order to decide whether or not Tibet should or should not be
> independent, the Beijing government has to ask the other 57 ethnic
> groups who are affected by a large piece of land
> separating from the whole nation.
>
> *******
> No they wouldn't. Just do it for the province of Tibet. I am sure they
wou=
ld
> be delighted.
>
> What makes you think the native Tibetans have the right to decide
> whether Tibet should or should not be independent?  Do the native
> Hawaiians have the rights to decide whether or not Hawaii should go
> for independence?  What makes you think Tibetans, being simply ONE of
> the 58 ethnic groups, should be given that much political previleges?
>
> ***********
> I didn't say anything about only allowing native Tibetans to vote. I
said
> the people living in the province of Tibet. Why doesn't the Chinese
> government have a vote, as you suggested?-
=D2=FE=B2=D8=B1=BB=D2=FD=D3=C3=
=CE=C4=D7=D6 -
>
> - =CF=D4=CA=BE=D2=FD=D3=C3=B5=C4=CE=C4=D7=D6 -

Go to post 30 and read what Jim Walsh has to say.  It makes sense and
what he has
proposed does not in any way abuse democracy.  You are abusing
democracy!
 




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Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-11 00:28:53 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-11 17:40:37 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EM  2008-05-11 11:33:51 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 05:44:29 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"ltlee1@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-11 05:51:07 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"akenn100@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 07:50:38 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
penang@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-11 08:18:41 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 08:20:11 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 08:36:55 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Duncan Patton <campbel  2008-05-11 15:49:16 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
aozotorp@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-11 12:04:01 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-11 16:44:26 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-11 16:45:29 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-11 16:52:46 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-12 11:51:06 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 16:34:55 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 13:51:41 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-15 20:12:36 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-11 21:18:45 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-11 21:29:47 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-12 17:19:30 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 16:34:56 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 04:44:15 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 05:27:20 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 05:37:55 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-11 22:46:50 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 16:34:58 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 23:16:51 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 23:21:35 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 16:34:59 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-11 23:33:32 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 16:35:01 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 15:29:19 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 00:31:29 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-12 17:57:51 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 00:35:41 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-12 17:52:03 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 20:00:36 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 20:00:22 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 00:40:37 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-12 17:53:19 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 20:00:44 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 07:50:46 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 00:54:39 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 20:00:40 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 07:55:16 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 00:57:41 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 08:19:42 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 08:22:57 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-12 02:04:45 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 20:00:41 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-12 02:10:17 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 20:00:43 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 09:26:24 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 09:29:57 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
aozotorp@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-12 03:10:15 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Polly the Parrot <flat  2008-05-12 20:17:29 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 20:00:45 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 04:46:20 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 20:13:47 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 04:50:41 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 04:53:38 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 04:55:25 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 05:01:08 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-12 05:36:12 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 23:00:17 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-12 06:00:54 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 06:23:38 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 23:00:18 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 06:25:34 
fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 23:00:16 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 08:17:00 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 23:29:33 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 23:34:43 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-12 23:34:54 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 08:39:52 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 13:39:49 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 08:41:58 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 09:02:16 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-13 11:06:53 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 09:40:45 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 09:04:12 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 16:20:01 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 16:23:10 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 16:34:37 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-12 09:41:34 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-12 17:26:43 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
taisun <taisun@[EMAIL   2008-05-12 11:44:54 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-12 12:45:49 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 16:23:52 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-13 11:04:31 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 16:25:27 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 13:39:50 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 16:26:19 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-13 11:03:32 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 13:39:58 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-12 16:27:30 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 16:36:37 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-13 11:02:27 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 13:39:52 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-12 16:59:52 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 13:39:53 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 17:21:12 
If CCP censor****p is so good, why not try it yourself.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 13:39:55 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 18:34:50 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 13:39:59 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"J.Venning" <  2008-05-13 09:53:01 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 18:38:53 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 13:40:00 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 18:45:38 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 13:39:56 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 18:51:04 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-12 19:19:55 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 13:39:48 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-13 17:21:35 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 16:30:16 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-12 22:47:46 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 16:30:18 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-12 23:54:07 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 16:30:17 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-13 10:20:12 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-14 16:17:37 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-13 10:31:53 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-14 22:24:39 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-13 10:34:46 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-13 17:51:29 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-13 18:56:17 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-14 07:04:24 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-14 07:05:55 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-14 07:12:38 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-14 07:15:19 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-14 02:11:21 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-14 14:21:16 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-14 18:33:41 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-14 18:38:21 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-14 19:32:13 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-15 05:18:37 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-15 06:45:15 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-15 20:46:56 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-15 06:49:19 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-15 01:34:57 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-15 20:46:57 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-16 00:45:21 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-15 01:49:37 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Yu <yugaung@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-15 02:05:19 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"OD" <Yahoo@  2008-05-15 23:29:30 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-15 07:53:19 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 09:48:40 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 09:50:28 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-16 12:51:00 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Duncan Patton <campbel  2008-05-16 22:30:12 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Keon <keon14@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-17 00:55:17 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
mimus <tinmimus99@[EMA  2008-05-17 01:15:46 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 11:34:20 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Keon <keon14@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-17 11:50:10 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 14:14:39 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Keon <keon14@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-17 15:40:13 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 21:10:14 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-19 00:01:43 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-16 17:27:08 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Duncan Patton <campbel  2008-05-17 01:13:23 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Keon <keon14@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-16 21:53:27 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-16 23:27:41 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
"OD" <Yahoo@  2008-05-19 21:02:19 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
netvegetable <none@[EM  2008-05-17 14:25:10 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-17 07:35:03 
Re: Is a 'Free Tibet' a possibility?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-19 00:01:44 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-18 01:10:01 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
"Peter Webb" &l  2008-05-18 21:38:02 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
Duncan Patton <campbel  2008-05-24 21:25:39 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-24 14:34:59 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
"SaPeIsMa" <  2008-05-24 16:54:07 
Re: fyfpoon goes off the deep end.
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-24 15:30:19 

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