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There are not meaningful free and fair elections in the PRC.

by Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSPAMh3@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 15, 2008 at 08:46 PM

On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:07:03 +0800, hslaw mij wrote
(in article <g0goco$mvf$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):

> 
> "Jim Walsh" <jimNOwalsSPAMh3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:0001HW.C451F9DE003B651AF01846D8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 12:46:39 +0800, hslaw mij wrote
>> (in article <g0gbe8$m9d$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>> 
>>> 
>>> CCP had liberated the people from the control of warlords in China and

>>> became
>> 
>>> their legitimate leaders. CCP are elected as leader and government
under a
>>> different election system.
>> 
>> They were not elected. There is no "different election system". Either
there
>> are multiple candidates, each free to campaign, and secret ballots, or
there
>> is not an election.
>> 
> 
> China, Honk Kong and Macau have their own election system.

False. Except for positions like village chief (which unfortunately have
no 
power) there are no elections at all in China.

Hong Kong has a limited system. The "mayor" is appointed by the CCP
(acting 
thru 800 representatives selected by the CCP). About half of the city 
legislature is elected.

I am not familiar with the details of Macau, but considering the fact that

Hong Kong's local government is not elected, I would be astonished if
Macau's 
were.


> There is no one 
> election system that will be fair or that is suitable to the whole world
! 

Yes, and no.

Certain basic features are common to all systems of democratic elections: 
freedom of speech, several candidates, secret ballot and so on.

The other details vary from place to place.

> Even the US system is not the best system.

The US system contains the minimum basic features common to all democratic

elections.

>Hillary and Obama are equally sup****ted by 
> the Democrats, both should be allowed to stand for election against the 
> Republican old man.

That is your opinion (and a silly one -- no political party would offer
two 
candidates, splitting its vote, letting a weaker but more united win).

-- 
Love, Jim
(I often delete parts of the previous post and I often remove excessive 
crossposts.)


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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-13 05:02:10 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-13 22:01:45 
Re: There are not meaningful free and fair elections in the PRC.
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-16 15:39:39 
Re: There are not meaningful free and fair elections in the PRC.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-19 00:01:47 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-13 08:07:36 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-13 08:09:02 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-14 16:17:25 
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"hslaw mij" <  2008-05-14 16:49:32 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-14 21:50:46 
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"hslaw mij" <  2008-05-15 12:51:03 
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The word "owner" means "according to law".
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-15 20:46:54 
Re: The word "owner" means "according to law".
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-13 08:11:42 
A lesson in Reading Comprehension.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-14 16:17:20 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-13 08:13:47 
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New political system for China..."rule by leaders with proven ab
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-15 14:31:58 
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"hslaw mij" <  2008-05-15 17:07:03 
There are not meaningful free and fair elections in the PRC.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-15 20:46:53 
Re: There are not meaningful free and fair elections in the PRC.
"hslaw mij" <  2008-05-16 08:48:01 
Re: There are not meaningful free and fair elections in the PRC.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-16 16:41:57 
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"hslaw mij" <  2008-05-16 17:08:58 
Re: There are not meaningful free and fair elections in the PRC.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-16 21:25:31 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-16 21:25:29 
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PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EM  2008-05-16 18:27:23 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-19 00:01:48 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-19 08:10:07 
Re: New political system for China..."rule by leaders with prove
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-20 15:26:49 
Re: New political system for China..."rule by leaders with prove
baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-19 01:57:58 
Re: New political system for China..."rule by leaders with prove
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-19 20:36:45 
Re: New political system for China..."rule by leaders with prove
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-19 20:36:44 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-13 16:41:27 
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Re: A lesson in Reading Comprehension.
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Re: A lesson in Reading Comprehension.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-15 14:31:53 
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baldeagle <botakeagle@  2008-05-14 07:41:35 
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