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Re: This disaster and the olympics-

by "Mung" <Princess_died@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 18, 2008 at 07:17 PM

"Raymond" <niday@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:i1dv241tb1qik73mrm8i1c1ca88chk16pr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Sun, 18 May 2008 15:37:37 +1200, "Mung"
> <Princess_died@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Raymond" <niday@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>news:cvut24lmd6l7vs3a4otdfe7tokue65i10q@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Sun, 18 May 2008 01:14:37 +1200, "Mung"
>>> <Princess_died@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Raymond" <niday@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>news:gn4r245627tr52gob04gjnl64alselsk6l@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:43:38 +1200, "Mung"
>>>>> <Princess_died@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Raymond" <niday@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:aubq24lqq7locua29ompc0gks1ugtt7kot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 23:16:34 -0700 (PDT), anjet9899
>>>>>>> <kuisse0002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My heart goes out to all those who lost their loved ones -
children
>>>>>>>>their parents, parents their babies and children, and all those
who
>>>>>>>>lost their homes and livelihood. It is terribly terribly sad. in
the
>>>>>>>>"wake" of this disaster - with the olympics only a  few months 
>>>>>>>>away,
>>>>>>>>what is the government's approach to this event.  I hope they will
>>>>>>>>either tone it down drastically or call it off.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hope they won't group their citizens together and get them to 
>>>>>>>>stage
>>>>>>>>their cheers and glee for the event. It would be terribly horribly
>>>>>>>>wrong. Cheering in the midst of devastation? I hope not - and how
>>>>>>>>could they.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sure it's quite appropriate to have all athletes as well as
all
>>>>>>> people of the world to observe a moment of silence during the 
>>>>>>> opening
>>>>>>> ceremony to pay tribute to those victims of the earthquake. It 
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> be a very meaningful way to remember them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Western hostility toward China won't stop the Olympics. Natural
>>>>>>> disaster won't stop us either. We have been worse. There is
nothing 
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>> can't overcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Except Human Rights ! Wouldn't it be great if China decided it
wanted 
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>be
>>>>>>seen right in the eyes of it's own people versus trying so hard to
be
>>>>>>seen
>>>>>>as right in the eys of the world.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering the fact that the Chinese government is responsible for
>>>>> one quarter of the world's population's life, liberty and the
pursuit
>>>>> of happiness, and considering the fact that the Chinese government
has
>>>>> been improving this one quarter of the world's population's life,
>>>>> liberty and the pursuit of happiness for the past 30 years, the
>>>>> Chinese government is the world's best government in honoring HUMAN
>>>>> RIGHTS.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what's exactly the ****ing demand you are asking, you ignorant
butt
>>>>> hole of the most despicable western barbarian race?
>>>>
>>>>In NZ there is a sound one often hears ....it goes baa baa ...it is
the
>>>>sound that sheep make when they following in a herd.
>>>>
>>>>Oh .... and you might want to polish up on your style ... you talk
like 
>>>>a
>>>>gutter snipe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> One more ****ing idiot who can't really answer my simple and straight
>>> forward question. **** you, you pretentious hypocritical human trash.
>>
>>Raymond ..... I have seen your name in so many messages and if I was to
>>hazzard a guess 99% of them were slating your credibility.
>>
>>Your obvious inability to discuss something without getting abusive
shows 
>>a
>>high level of immuturity. If China is basing it's new found power on the
>>likes of you then they are doomed.
>>
>>Go and stand in front of a tank or something..... oh that's right, that
>>never happened.
>>
>>
>
> Hey, dip****. It is my way of having fun by burning your ****d ass as
> well as exposing your stupid argument at the same time. If you can't
> take the heat, then get the **** out of the kitchen. The usenet
> discussion is for adults. If you can't deal with my argument then you
> are supposed to eat my **** and die.

Okay then....

1 .The legal system
The Chinese government recognises that there are problems with the current

legal system, such as:

  a.. A lack of laws in general, not just ones to protect civil rights.
  b.. A lack of due process.
  c.. Conflicts of law.
As judges are appointed by the State and the judiciary as a whole does not

have its own budget, this has led to corruption and the abuse of 
administrative power.

2. Civil Liberties as in , Freedom of speech, freedom of movement,
Religious 
freedom & political freedom.

3 . Discrimination - as in Ethnic minorities, Tibet, Treatment of rural 
workers ("one of the most strictly enforced 'apartheid' social structures
in 
modern world history." -  "Urban dwellers enjoy a range of social,
economic 
and cultural benefits while peasants, the majority of the Chinese 
population, are treated as second-class citizens.)


No doubt the list would go on and your counterarguments would come
primarily 
from the idea of "Asian values" and the need to create a "harmonious 
society", where the welfare of the collective should always be put ahead
of 
the rights of any individual whenever conflicts between these arise. It is

the responsibility of the government to ensure that this is achieved and
in 
some cases, even persuade or force individuals to make sacrifices for the 
greater good. It would require a strong and stable authority to regulate
the 
potentially conflicting interests of the public and enforce a compromise. 
Governments with curtailed authority would fail to take on such a 
responsibility....

Your way of having fun huh ...... very very mature aren't we.
 




 17 Posts in Topic:
This disaster and the olympics-
anjet9899 <kuisse0002@  2008-05-15 23:16:34 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 03:09:39 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
"Mung" <Prin  2008-05-16 23:43:38 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-16 10:10:43 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
"Mung" <Prin  2008-05-18 01:14:37 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-17 11:41:22 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
"Mung" <Prin  2008-05-18 15:37:37 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-18 00:49:24 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
"Mung" <Prin  2008-05-18 19:17:34 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-18 14:03:00 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-19 00:01:49 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
"Cheney, Dick"   2008-05-16 10:02:03 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-17 06:49:49 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-18 00:25:45 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-18 20:50:06 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-19 02:04:08 
Re: This disaster and the olympics-
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-19 00:19:11 

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