On Fri, 16 May 2008 22:10:43 +0800, Raymond wrote
(in article <gn4r245627tr52gob04gjnl64alselsk6l@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 23:43:38 +1200, "Mung"
> <Princess_died@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Raymond" <niday@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:aubq24lqq7locua29ompc0gks1ugtt7kot@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Thu, 15 May 2008 23:16:34 -0700 (PDT), anjet9899
>>> <kuisse0002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My heart goes out to all those who lost their loved ones - children
>>>> their parents, parents their babies and children, and all those who
>>>> lost their homes and livelihood. It is terribly terribly sad. in the
>>>> "wake" of this disaster - with the olympics only a few months away,
>>>> what is the government's approach to this event. I hope they will
>>>> either tone it down drastically or call it off.
>>>>
>>>> I hope they won't group their citizens together and get them to stage
>>>> their cheers and glee for the event. It would be terribly horribly
>>>> wrong. Cheering in the midst of devastation? I hope not - and how
>>>> could they.
>>>
>>> I'm sure it's quite appropriate to have all athletes as well as all
>>> people of the world to observe a moment of silence during the opening
>>> ceremony to pay tribute to those victims of the earthquake. It should
>>> be a very meaningful way to remember them.
>>>
>>> Western hostility toward China won't stop the Olympics. Natural
>>> disaster won't stop us either. We have been worse. There is nothing we
>>> can't overcome.
>>
>> Except Human Rights ! Wouldn't it be great if China decided it wanted
to be
>> seen right in the eyes of it's own people versus trying so hard to be
seen
>> as right in the eys of the world.
>>
>
> Considering the fact that the Chinese government is responsible for
> one quarter of the world's population's life, liberty and the pursuit
> of happiness, and considering the fact that the Chinese government has
> been improving this one quarter of the world's population's life,
> liberty and the pursuit of happiness for the past 30 years, the
> Chinese government is the world's best government in honoring HUMAN
> RIGHTS.
Well, sort of.
The economic upturn started less than 30 years ago, and it was proceeded
with
nearly 30 years of Maoism that bankrupt China to the point where it could
not
feed itself and had to buy grain from Canada and elsewhere.
The economic upturn was the result of increasing the freedoms of the
Chinese
people. They could do many things under the reforms that were previously
forbidden. In that sense you are absolutely right. A net increase in human
rights.
However, there is no reason to think that the economic reforms would have
been less effective had they coincided with political reforms. Indeed
there
is strong evidence the other way.
Which is why I sup****t all human rights for the Chinese, not merely some
of
the economic ones.
--
Love, Jim
(I often delete parts of the previous post and I often remove excessive
crossposts.)
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