On May 20, 7:09=A0am, Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSPA...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:14:36 +0800, Ed wrote
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> > "Jim Walsh" <jimNOwalsSPA...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:10:21 +0800, Ed wrote
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> >>> "Jim Walsh" <jimNOwalsSPA...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>>> They will tell you that the per capita income of
> >>>> the residents of rural villages is the highest is has ever been in
> >>>> history. I
> >>>> know of no evidence to refute that claim. Do you?
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> >>> "21.5 million rural population live below the official "absolute
pover=
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> >>> line (approximately $90 per year); and an additional 35.5 million
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> >>> population above that but below the official "low income" line
> >>> (approximately $125 per year) (2006 est.)"
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> >> Unfortunately this does not refute the claim that the "per capita
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> >> residents of rural villages" in China is presently higher than it has
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> > With China's inflation rate at about 9% I would expect real income to
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> > less even if the =A0the average went up by a dollar or two.
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> >>> Between $90 and $125 per year they are all driving Cadillacs.
> >>> Per capita GDP is $5,300.
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> >>> Per capita GDP:
> >>> Japan $33,800
> >>> S. Korea $24,600
> >>> Hong Kong $42,000
> >>> Taiwan $29,800
> >>> Thailand $8,000
> >>> Malaysia $14,400
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> >>> Indonesia, India, Vietnam have lower numbers than China.
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> > You said:
> > China was the sick man of Asia for a
> > relatively short period of time in its long history.
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> > They still look pretty sick to me.
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> China has been a recognizable civilization for about 5,000 years.
And for the past over 5,000 years, the Chinese "population wax and
wane. People cleave asunder and coalesce". Emperors killed thousands
at the slidest displeasure. Invaders killed millions. Dynasties
changed at the expense of the peasants with wholesale slaughter.
There are more human bones buried in China than anywhere else.
To call the 5,000 years of China's existence a "civilization" is a
myth. China was a killing field.
>For much of
> that time it was equal to or advanced relative to the other
civilizations =
on
> the Earth. In that context, the 4 or 500 years since 1500 are only 10%
of =
the
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Yeah, more advance than others in killing people.
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