drydem wrote:
> On May 20, 10:44 am, EMBALMER <Embal...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> drydem wrote:
>>> I hope the China does a better job of handling this disaster
>>> than we handled the USA Katrina Hurricane disaster. (9_9)
>> That was easy. Since the city, county and state governments f*cked up,
>> all they had to do was yell at the top of their lungs, "Where are the
>> Feds? WHERE ARE THE FEDS," until everyone believed it was the Feds'
>> fault. Other disasters both natural and civil engineering f*ck ups
>> occur in the U.S. yearly. Only in Lousyana did the local officials
>> succeed in ****fting blame from themselves to the Feds/FEMA/Bush,
because
>> no other sane locality ever did that kind of sh*t.
>
> Corp of Army Engineers got some of the heat because the contractors
> that they used to make the New Orleans levees had failed to secure
> the foundations properly - causing the the levees to fail
> prematurely. However, the given the strength and speed of the
> hurricane - this would have only bought some extra time.
My sources were federal district court do***ents. Your sources, please?
> One of the problem was that there was no federal or local plan to
> help evacuate those who no place to evacuate to ( no money to travel
> or relative to visit),
Why should the feds make an evacuation plan for the CITY of New Orleans?
A few years before, they were given ONE MILLION DOLLARS (for starters)
by the feds just to make a workable plan *for themselves* as it should
be. They constructed a very, very nice fountain instead. Pictures of
this $1M fountain are all over the internet. Well, maybe less than $1M.
City Hall did put up a website [that was taken down right after the
hurricane when the criticisms of City Hall heated up]. That website ate
up some of the million dollars. :D
> had no means of trans****ation to evacuate with ( no car or truck to
> escape with), or were physically incapable of evacuating without
> assistance (physically or mentally handicapped and poor),
New Orleans citizens cannot hoof it to their city's Dome? The
handicapped cannot be helped by friends and neighbors? Car pooling?
School buses (Oooops, sorry about this. Hehehe. More pictures of New
Orleans buses on the internet.) If I was the mayor of New Orleans, I
WOULD HAVE DRIVEN ONE OF THESE BUSES MYSELF to help my people! But no,
he went house shopping in Texas. Sale filed at Dallas County Courthouse.
> Another problem was that many insurance companies refused to pay for
> claims to damages caused by the flooding that the hurricane brought.
> So even if a home owner had flood insurance - the insurance companies
> refused to paid on the hurricane damage claims.
Yes, I agree with you on this one. What did the STATE Insurance
Commissioner do?
>> Before all the yelling and screaming and blaming took place, the
>> Lousyana governor in a recorded interview were all praises and
gratitude
>> for the first Feds to arrive to do their work for them. Then the
>> Democratic national leader****p took over the publicity stunts and the
>> rest is how-to-do-it history.
>
> It wasn't the Lousiana governor but the Republican President of the
> United States of America George Bush, who was best remembered for
> praising the federal response to Katrina Hurricane.
Do you want a transcript of the governor's interview? Of course it got
zero publicity when she was told to toe the part line. Thank God for
cameras and tape recorders.
> The Democratic Party national leader****p however did started to
> criticize the Federal relief effort after a few days. The rest that
> follow was a What-went-wrong-and-why-nothing-got-done history.
Yeah, all the critics could have been helping in the relief efforts, but
NO! They were lip-flappin' from high and dry places DURING the
rescue/relief/cleanup ops.
>> When a disaster strikes anywhere else in the U.S., locals help
>> themselves and each other, and neighborhood as well as
>> elected/appointed leaders arise to the occasion.
>
> That only works for minor disasters - your an assumption
> fails miserably during major regional disasters ( which
> cover 100s to 1000s of square miles ).
(1) Good leader****p arises out of any time of need, except in New
Orleans. The size of the disaster shouldn't matter. And you've never
been in a Texas flood, I see.
> Because Hurricane Katrina covered such a large area - everyone was
> effected simulateously - local emergency equipment and supplies in
> the wake of the Hurrican were frequently destroyed. Unless emergency
> equipment and supplies were initially outside the hurricane's
> destructive path - there was a good chance it was wiped out.
> Emergency equipment and supplies had to be placed outside the
> disaster region but needs to be ****pped back to the disaster area
> after the hurricane pass the disaster areas. Re-establi****ng
> trans****tation and communication links for emergency supplies and
> equipment during a very large regional disaster.
So you were part of the rescue and relief and cleanup efforts?
>> During floods in Texas, emergency workers have to turn away too
>> many offers from residents to use their personal watercraft in
>> rescue and clean up operations. What did New Orleans residents do
>> during and after Katrina? Aside from picking up the orchestrated
>> yelling and screaming, the motherf*ckers reelected their f*cked up
>> mayor (who was spotted in Dallas buying a house during
>> Katrina--official real estate records exist in a Texas courthouse
>> to sup****t this)!
>
> Why are you soo really angry?
Because I was there and witnessed the lies and cover ups. Is that
enough qualification for you?
>> While on the subject, court records exist on suits filed over the years
>> by tree huggers against the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers every time
they
>> tried to work on the New Orleans levees. Liberal judges were only too
>> happy to issue the injunctions. Yep, all that proposed construction
>> could have killed some species of insects. So, people died.
>
> I remember reading a different version of why the levees were not
> upgraded.
I suggest you read federal district court records for the past 20 years.
Court records only have two versions per case: Plaintiff's and
Defendant's versions.
> From what I recall, the US Army Corp of Engineers recommended
> upgrades to the New Orleans levees prior to Katrina was not
> blocked by *tree hugeers* but because the project lacked
> federal funding.
The levees deteriorated over several decades due to all the judicially
blocked maintenance efforts that could have killed some insects and
trees. Katrina made the discussion academic. People died, including
some of those who tried to help themselves and others. Others, like the
uniformed New Orleans policewoman, looted stores--not for food, medicine
and essentials--but for store display equipment, appliances, telephones,
cash registers, etc., unmindful of national TV news cameras. The looter
cop, BTW, declined an interview.
BTW, Drydem, if we're gonna continue this discussion, will you please DO
NOT delete pertinent parts of my posts? Thank you.
EMBALMER
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