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Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?

by RichAsianKid <richasiankid@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 21, 2008 at 03:02 PM

On May 21, 8:18 am, Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSPA...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 May 2008 16:25:23 +0800,RichAsianKidwrote
> (in article
> <0110de39-60ec-46f7-9bc6-1ba332ae4...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>
> > Racial identity politics goes way way deeper.
>
> There are no races, but that does not mean that people do not identify
> themselves as member of various groups and act accordingly.
>
> Self-identification of this sort is not evidence of races or anything
else=
..
>

But even you conceded a while back that gene clines DO exist. That is,
variations do exist. Not everyone's the same. Not every population is
identical. Besides this post is not about whether races exist --
facial resemblance enhances trust **regardless** of underlying genetic
similarties or differences. Thus regardless of underlying genetic
structures or differences or whether races exist or not or whether
there are 3 races or 30 races or 300 races, people STILL trust with
those who are more like themselves. Now if you really really pretend
you cannot tell the difference between a Han Chinese and a Pygmy or an
Icelander there's not much else for anyone to say. Perhaps you can't
tell a chimp from a negro either  (actually.....maybe that's more
forgivable...)?

http://www.facelab.org/include/download?id=3D31
Facial resemblance enhances trust
Lisa M. DeBruine

Organisms are expected to be sensitive to cues of genetic relatedness
when making decisions about social
behaviour. Relatedness can be *****sed in several ways, one of which
is phenotype matching: the *****sment
of similarity between others=92 traits and either one=92s own traits or
those of known relatives. One
candidate cue of relatedness in humans is facial resemblance. Here, I
re****t the effects of an experimental
manipulation of facial resemblance in a two-person sequential trust
game. Subjects were shown faces of
ostensible playing partners manipulated to resemble either themselves
or an unknown person. Resemblance
to the subject=92s own face raised the incidence of trusting a partner,
but had no effect on the
incidence of selfish betrayals of the partner=92s trust. Control
subjects playing with identical pictures failed
to show such an effect. In a second experiment, resemblance of the
playing partner to a familiar (famous)
person had no effect on either trusting or betrayals of trust.


And besides, how people self-identify themselves may not necessarily
be 100% socially construed or a figment of imagination. As posted
before:

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=3D1196372

Tang et al. Genetic Structure, Self-Identified Race/Ethnicity, and
Confounding in Case-Control Association Studies.
Am J Hum Genet. 2005 February; 76(2): 268=96275.

We have analyzed genetic data for 326 microsatellite markers that were
typed uniformly in a large multiethnic population-based sample of
individuals as part of a study of the genetics of hypertension (Family
Blood Pressure Program). Subjects identified themselves as belonging
to one of four major racial/ethnic groups (white, African American,
East Asian, and Hispanic) and were recruited from 15 different
geographic locales within the United States and Taiwan. Genetic
cluster analysis of the microsatellite markers produced four major
clusters, which showed near-perfect correspondence with the four self-
re****ted race/ethnicity categories. Of 3,636 subjects of varying race/
ethnicity, only 5 (0.14%) showed genetic cluster member****p different
from their self-identified race/ethnicity. On the other hand, we
detected only modest genetic differentiation between different current
geographic locales within each race/ethnicity group. Thus, ancient
geographic ancestry, which is highly correlated with self-identified
race/ethnicity=97as opposed to current residence=97is the major
determinant of genetic structure in the U.S. population. Implications
of this genetic structure for case-control association studies are
discussed.




> --
> Love, Jim
> (I often delete parts of the previous post and I often remove excessive
> crossposts.)
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War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-21 01:25:23 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-21 20:18:17 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
"home" <f.j.  2008-05-21 17:49:33 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EM  2008-05-21 16:00:41 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 13:17:52 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-21 14:51:33 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 13:17:53 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-21 15:02:00 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 13:17:55 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 13:17:56 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-23 14:07:38 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-23 14:51:35 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-23 15:41:52 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:31:46 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-25 23:43:07 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
israeliteknight <israe  2008-05-26 12:29:41 
RichAsianKid's Musings re: Jim Walsh and Our Concentric Loyaltie
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-26 17:31:48 
Re: RichAsianKid's Musings re: Jim Walsh and Our Concentric Loya
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-27 13:51:39 
Re: RichAsianKid's Musings re: Jim Walsh and Our Concentric Loya
joyo <kqurtyhar@[EMAIL  2008-05-27 00:35:12 
Re: RichAsianKid's Musings re: Jim Walsh and Our Concentric Loya
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-27 20:49:16 
Re: RichAsianKid's Musings re: Jim Walsh and Our Concentric Loya
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-27 15:21:01 
Re: RichAsianKid's Musings re: Jim Walsh and Our Concentric Loya
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-28 21:17:54 
RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-28 21:17:55 
Re: RichAsianKid's Musings re: Jim Walsh and Our Concentric Loya
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-28 08:04:32 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-28 23:33:17 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 23:58:27 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 23:58:28 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-29 23:58:29 
Re: RichAsianKid's Musings re: Jim Walsh and Our Concentric Loya
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-28 23:34:36 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-30 15:18:50 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-01 18:04:38 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
Your name <rhomb@[EMAI  2008-06-01 12:56:45 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
Your name <rhomb@[EMAI  2008-06-01 13:01:22 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-30 15:29:56 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-01 18:04:39 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-30 15:34:42 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-01 18:04:52 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-05-30 15:38:33 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-01 18:05:10 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-02 18:23:07 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-03 14:12:57 
Re: RAK can't admit it when he is wrong.
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-03 14:12:58 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
RichAsianKid <richasia  2008-06-02 18:24:02 
Re: War by Other Means: Black Republicans Vote Black Democrat?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-06-03 14:13:01 

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