Re: Development Race: China and India

On Thu, 22 May 2008 05:27:03 +0800, RichAsianKid wrote
(in article 
<4d8e8c54-a1ca-44a7-a581-a78244d1978b@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):

> On May 21, 8:18 am, Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSPA...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> On Wed, 21 May 2008 15:16:20 +0800,RichAsianKidwrote
>> (in article
>> <4a5a0115-afeb-43e8-8723-17d45d148...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>):
>> 
>>> Dark skin correlates with lower IQ. Do you have counter-evidence that
dark
>>> skin correlates with higher IQ?
>> 
>> 1.There is no evidence at all that skin color correlates with
intelligence.
>> Zip. Nada. No such evidence.
>> 
>> 2. EVEN IF there were such evidence (and there isn't), it is NOT
evidence
>> that there are races.
>> 
>> The counter-argument is as follows:
>> 
>> Suppose height correlated with IQ (there is some slight evidence that
it
>> does), would you claim that there was a race of tall people?
>> 
> 
> 1. Just because you can't agree whether 5'11" or 6'2" or 6'5" is tall
> does that mean there is no such thing as height? You should pay more
> attention, that was posted in this very thread.


I agree that there is skin color, but there are no races such as "brown 
people".

I agree that there is height, but there are no races such as "tall
people".

There are no races at all.

I read the Edwards pdf. A lot of scientific jargon parading as good
science. 
For example, a key element of his argument is that racially related genes
do 
not vary independently -- but that is simply a lie.

Hair shape and color (each are commonly used by racists to assign folks to

races) vary independently. And both vary independently of skin color.

In discussing this subject Edwards cites Cavalli-Sforza especially for the

concept of treeness.

He would not dare cite him for the idea of race, because:

The New York Times has hailed Genes, Peoples, and Languages, the new book
by 
Professor Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza 
[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0865475296/
ref=sim_books/103-0702805-3403066], the dean of population geneticists,
for 
"dismantling the idea of race." In the New York Review of Books, Jared 
Diamond salutes Cavalli-Sforza for "demoli****ng scientists' attempts to 
classify human populations into races in the same way that they classify 
birds and other species into races" 
[http://www.nybooks.com/nyrev/WWWarchdisplay.cgi?20000413058R@[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
 himself has written: "The classification into races has
proved 
to be a futile exercise." He says his research is "expected to undermine
the 
popular belief that there are clearly defined races, [and] to contribute
to 
the elimination of racism."  He adds:  "The idea of race in the human
species 
serves no purpose."



-- 
Love, Jim
(I often delete parts of the previous post and I often remove excessive 
crossposts.)


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