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Re: China: Mandate of heaven?

by "fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 21, 2008 at 11:53 PM

On 5=D4=C221=C8=D5, =CF=C2=CE=E710=CA=B134=B7=D6, "Albert K. Fung"
<akwf...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >
=CC=EC=B5=C0=D3=D0=B3=A3=A3=AC=B2=BB=9E=E9=88=F2=B4=E6=A3=AC=B2=BB=9E=E9=
=E8=EE=CD=F6 .... (=DC=F7=D7=D3/=CC=EC=D5=93=C6=AA)
>
> > It was Mencius during the classical period of ancient China,
> > who advanced that salient political concept of the Con****ian
> > school, mandate of heaven. as the moral force for retraining
> > the imperial power of the Middle Kingdom's monarchs.
> > Calamities were deemed expressions of divine displeasure.
> > And, it was the duty of the imperial astrologer to interpret
> > and reveal the divine narrative. The ruler must find ways to
> > placate the divine fury by redressing injustices perpetrated
> > against the people. He was answerable to a higher power, and
> > must rule in accordance with Dao:
=91=AA=D6=AE=D2=D4=D6=CE=84t=BC=AA=A3=
=AC=91=AA=D6=AE=D2=D4=81y=84t=D0=D7
>
> > CCP must take heed ....
> > In believing in superstitions? none sense
>
> bmoore:
>
> > Interpreting weather patterns and earth movements to directly reflect
> > divine opinion is silly. It's a lot more complicated than that.
>
> More complicated indeed ....
>
> The salient doctrine of the eminent school, is the Con****ian
> order. It's an invaluable tool for the maintenance of social
> harmony. Provided, of course, that there is no weak link any
> where in the hierarchy. And, when the anchor of the order is
> the problem (the monarch), then all bets are off.
>
> The Mencius political doctrine clears that Con****ian bind.
>
> Not unlike object oriented progamming, it needs an exception
> handling mechanism. The doctrine of mandate of heaven serves
> that purpose superbly. And, makes the Con****ian order palat-
> able.
>
> One must, however, look beyond the superstitious elements to
> appreciate its Machievellian design.  The eminent Con****ian-
> ist certainly understand the silent nature of China's tradit
> -ional source of moral authority. The silent partner bestows
> the needed authority and authenticity, while leving its will
> to human interpretation. Out of the chaotic morass, surely a
> strong will emerge to replace the immoral monarch, and claim
> the mantle. The mighty can then proclaim: =B7=EE=CC=EC=B3=D0=C3=FC (the
wi=
ll
> of the divine is served). Or in the Con****ian parlance, it's
> a justified, tem****ary suspension of the sacred order.
>
> For the mandate of heaven ....
>
> Regards,
>
> Albert K. Fung
> Casa Tres Palmas, Santa Ynez, California, USA.
> ---
> Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net
> Complaints to n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 you were talking about the bureacratic inertia by which various
warning signs to the imminent earthquake were ignored, you might have
a point.  But then again, the same argument can be made of the natural
disaster in New Orlean.
 




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China: Mandate of heaven?
"Albert K. Fung"  2008-05-20 16:39:06 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-20 18:17:35 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 22:18:06 
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"Albert K. Fung"  2008-05-21 07:34:36 
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"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-21 23:53:12 
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"Albert K. Fung"  2008-05-22 06:40:24 
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Lproudman@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-20 20:18:04 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-20 20:41:17 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-21 12:01:07 
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Lproudman@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-20 22:40:55 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-21 20:18:00 
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BobLee1964 <boblee1964  2008-05-20 22:56:30 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-21 20:18:01 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-21 00:06:16 
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Lproudman@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-21 06:41:38 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 13:17:34 
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"Albert K. Fung"  2008-05-21 07:58:27 
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BobLee1964 <boblee1964  2008-05-21 22:16:08 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 13:28:11 
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BobLee1964 <boblee1964  2008-05-21 22:36:49 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 20:48:40 
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BobLee1964 <boblee1964  2008-05-22 05:25:55 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 20:48:41 
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Lproudman@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-22 06:58:02 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-23 12:10:27 
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Lproudman@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-22 23:03:33 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-23 15:43:13 
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"TFK" <tfkmj  2008-05-24 20:58:12 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:31:01 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-22 23:33:19 
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Lproudman@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-23 07:08:36 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:30:57 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:30:59 
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Lproudman@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-23 23:39:01 
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"TFK" <tfkmj  2008-05-24 20:54:44 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:30:48 
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Fantasy <fantasywhitec  2008-05-24 00:59:52 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:31:02 
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BobLee1964 <boblee1964  2008-05-24 17:03:35 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:30:50 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:30:52 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:30:54 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:30:56 
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Lproudman@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-24 19:40:19 
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Lproudman@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-25 07:31:27 
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BobLee1964 <boblee1964  2008-05-25 12:23:40 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-26 16:24:02 
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BobLee1964 <boblee1964  2008-05-25 12:40:04 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-26 16:24:00 
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BobLee1964 <boblee1964  2008-05-25 12:42:52 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-26 16:24:01 
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BobLee1964 <boblee1964  2008-05-26 14:34:48 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-27 13:51:16 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-27 13:51:17 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-27 13:51:19 
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BobLee1964 <boblee1964  2008-05-26 14:42:37 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-27 13:51:15 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-05-26 15:01:52 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-27 13:51:20 
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"Oh My Jesus" &  2008-05-21 16:50:50 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
pan6pcpc <pan6pcpc@[EM  2008-05-21 17:52:10 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
"Albert K. Fung"  2008-05-21 08:43:20 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
"Albert K. Fung"  2008-05-21 10:39:35 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 16:56:31 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-23 12:10:29 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 16:50:16 
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ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-05-21 15:42:40 
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Duke Lama <dukelama@[E  2008-05-21 18:37:58 
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"Albert K. Fung"  2008-05-21 07:40:59 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-05-21 15:40:32 
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"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-21 23:50:14 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 20:48:42 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
"Albert K. Fung"  2008-05-22 06:40:56 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-22 06:50:09 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-23 12:10:30 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
"Albert K. Fung"  2008-05-23 07:10:30 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:31:06 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-22 22:33:23 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-23 15:43:20 
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"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-23 14:53:48 
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Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:31:04 
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"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-23 14:56:00 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-23 16:20:23 
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"fyfpoon@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-23 22:23:13 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-25 10:50:20 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-26 16:24:03 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 16:35:44 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-22 13:51:31 
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Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 17:00:47 
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bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-22 14:05:15 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
Raymond <niday@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 19:32:22 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-23 12:10:31 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
"Oh My Jesus" &  2008-05-23 09:23:51 
Re: China: Mandate of heaven?
"Albert K. Fung"  2008-05-23 06:59:34 
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rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-23 09:16:07 

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