Re: PISA Scores and IQ

On May 21, 2:43=A0am, RichAsianKid <richasian...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> On May 20, 3:50 am, israeliteknight <israelitekni...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
> > > How can jews do what they did if they're as STUPID as their scores
in
> > > "Israel" prove they are? =A0I'm looking at the table from PISA on
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> > > READING, and jews can't even READ. "Israel" scored 439, which is 217
> > > points lower than Korea and only 46 points higher than half-black
> > > Brazil [and Indonesia and Montenegro]. =A0 It seems about two
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> > > deviations lower than the median for the OECD countries.
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> Here's a chart showing the correlation between IQ and PISA/TIMSS
> scores at the national level:
>
> =A0 =A0http://i26.tinypic.com/znanh1.jpg
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> International *****sment of Educational Progress [IAEP]-II 1991, TIMSS
> 1995, TIMSS 1999, TIMSS 2003, Programme for International
> Student *****sment [PISA] 2000, PISA 2003, Progress in International
> Reading Literacy Study [PIRLS] 2001)
>
> Legend: R-reading, M-math, S-science, P-problem solving, thus TM-8 99
> =3D TIMSS Math Section Grade 8 1999; PS-15 03 =3D Pisa Science Age 15
2003=

> *****sment etc.
>
> Note how high the correlations are at the national level between g and
> PISA and TIMSS scores... All 0.90+ !!

Great chart.  Thanks for posting it.

It's exactly what I expected, except for one nigglie.

There's a *** difference at the 8th grade level, but it skyrockets in
every country by the 12th grade level.

Of 42 countries whose 12th graders participated in TIMSS Math, the
boys in 35 of those countries scored higher than the 8th grade math
score, and those in 7 countries scored lower.  In the US, 12th grade
boys scored 56 points lower and 12th grade girls scored 104 points
lower.  Where Swiss 8th graders scored 46 points higher than ours in
math, their 12th grade boys scored 102 points higher than our boys and
133 points higher than our girls.

I would really love to hear your input on the first two graphs on the
following page:

http://christianparty.net/timss.htm

ok, I'll be direct.

With durn few exceptions, 12th grade girls in most countries scored
much lower than 8th grade girls in those countries while 12th grade
boys scored much higher than their 8th grade boys. The amount by which
12th grade boys scored lower was greater than the US in only two
countries--Austria and France (dunno why).

The AMOUNT by which we scored LOWER is SHOCKING--and I cannot think of
a single explanation for it.

With this big a gap between boys and girls around the WORLD  in math,
science, physics, and geometry scores, how can anyone possibly
conclude that their "IQ's are equal"?