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Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'

by bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 22, 2008 at 08:44 AM

On May 22, 6:42=A0am, ltlee1 <ltl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 22, 8:12=A0am, PaPaPeng <PaPaP...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > On Wed, 21 May 2008 08:22:03 -0700 (PDT), demoris...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > >Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
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> > Quite a different picgture is presengted by Asia Times Online. =A0
>
> > There is only one issue of im****tance for any leader of Taiwan.
=A0That
> > will be reunification with China. =A0Everything else is small stuff.
> > How this leader will manage the reunification will make his place in
> > history. =A0Lose that chance and he becomes a footnote. =A0Already who
> > remembers CSB now. =A0He achieved nothing.
>
> > One hand across the strait
> > By Ralph A Cossa
> > March 23, 2008http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/JE23Ad01.html
>
> > TAIPEI - "Be careful what you wish for." This Chinese proverb came
> > repeatedly to mind when listening this week to incoming Taiwan
> > President Ma Ying-jeou's forward-leaning inauguration address that
> > sent so many olive branches toward Beijing that even some of his
> > ardent sup****ters feared he had "gone too far" and protesters almost
> > immediately took to the street in Taipei warning against "selling out"
> > to China.
>
> > The big question now is can Beijing, after hearing "no" for the past
> > eight years, now take "yes" for an answer. Ma called on Beijing to
> > join him to "launch a new era of cross-strait relations", based on his
> > previously articulated "three no's" policy: no unification, no
> > independence and no use of force. He talked about "one China,
> > respective interpretations" and the "1992 consensus" (under which both
> > sides agreed to disagree over how to define "one China") and made
> > several references to "our mutual Chinese heritage".
>
> > He also committed to maintaining the status quo across the strait,
> > noting at one point that "in a young democracy, respecting the
> > constitution is more im****tant than amending it" - his predecessor's
> > attempts to amend the constitution was a main source of tension
> > between Taipei and Beijing.
>
> > In a truly unprecedented gesture, Ma also made specific positive
> > reference to Chinese President Hu Jintao's remarks on cross-strait
> > relations - "building mutual trust, shelving controversies, finding
> > commonalities despite differences and creating together a win-win
> > solution" - stating that "his views are very much in line with our
> > own".
>
> > Ma laid out the normalization of economic and cultural relations with
> > the mainland as immediate goals, but warned that "Taiwan doesn't just
> > want security and prosperity; it wants dignity". Herein lies the rub!
>
> > It should be relatively easy for Beijing to respond positively to Ma's
> > calls for direct weekend charter flights and visits to Taiwan by
> > mainland tourists and other economic and cultural exchanges. Some
> > security gestures, such as a visible drawback of missiles opposite
> > Taiwan, is also doable without dramatically changing the security
> > calculus. But, is Beijing prepared to make significant gestures aimed
> > at truly improving Taiwan's sense of security and relieving its
> > international isolation?
>
> > A failure by Beijing to respond positively to Ma's olive branches will
> > seriously undercut the new Taiwanese leader as he tries to build
> > consensus at home in sup****t of his forward-leaning cross-strait
> > policies. His address is already being labeled by the opposition as
> > "naive" and "wishful thinking". Will Beijing prove this to be the
> > case?
>
> > For its part, the Chinese leader****p is preoccupied with other things
> > right now - earthquake relief, Summer Olympic Games preparations,
> > unrest in Tibet and elsewhere - even while breathing a sigh of relief
> > that its main nemesis, now-departed president Chen Shui-bian, is
> > finally gone. Beijing appeared almost paranoid about Chen springing an
> > 11th-hour surprise; a fear exacerbated by its lack of understanding
> > about how democratic transitions work. This one worked flawlessly, as
> > Chen himself had promised.
>
> > Beijing immediately opted to pass on its first chance to make a
> > positive political gesture by once again blocking Taiwan's bid for
> > observer status in the World Health Organization (WHO). Chen's
> > decision to apply as "Taiwan" rather than "Chinese Taipei" regrettably
> > made it easier for Beijing to once again block this request, but it
> > could have asked the WHO to postpone consideration of Taiwan's bid for
> > a few days to allow for a reformulation of the application, rather
> > than quickly excluding it from the agenda. As a result, Beijing needs
> > to quickly find some other venues to provide the dignity that Ma seeks
> > and Taiwan richly deserves.
>
> > It appears that Beijing is still struggling to figure out how to deal
> > with a potentially friendly government in Taipei after years of just
> > saying no to everything and branding every positive gesture by the
> > Chen administration a "splittist trick".
>
> > The real concern, as some Chinese candidly expressed to me during a
> > recent visit to Beijing, is finding ways to improve Taiwan's
> > "international breathing space" without further enhancing its status
> > as a sovereign independent entity (or dare we say "country"). Fear
> > that gestures once made would be exploited were Chen's Democratic
> > Progressive Party (DPP) to return to power were also cited as a reason
> > for moving slowly, even though moving too slowly (or not at all) will
> > increase the prospects of a DPP return.
>
> > Other distractions notwithstanding, it is im****tant for Beijing not to
> > wait too long before making some significant gestures in response to
> > Ma's controversial overtures. For starters, it can observe Ma's call
> > for a "truce" in the international arena. In recent years, Beijing has
> > taken great delight in humiliating the Chen administration by
> > spiriting away Taiwan's few remaining allies, normally through a
> > shameless bidding war that has learned little dignity to either side.
> > This must stop. If no one recognizes the Republic of China (Taiwan's
> > official name), why shouldn't it just declare itself the Republic of
> > Taiwan now and end the "one China" charade?
>
> This guy is really not neutral. He wrote the above as if Taiwan has no
> hsitory. One China is not a charade. It is history. The disagreement
> between the PRC and the ROC is not whether there is one China. But
> which should represent this one China. And now, according to the
> Taiwan spirit or according to the Beijing/China spirit?
>
> Ma is changing the focus from Taiwan independency to Taiwan spiirt.
> Foerign commentators like the author of the article has yet to make
> the change.

More LTLee-speak, i.e. lots of words but nothing said.
 




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Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
demorising@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-21 08:22:03 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EM  2008-05-21 16:02:16 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 13:17:49 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EM  2008-05-22 05:54:19 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 20:48:43 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 20:52:43 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-21 10:44:07 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EM  2008-05-21 18:35:24 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 13:17:50 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
demorising@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-21 13:06:08 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EM  2008-05-21 20:09:57 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
demorising@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-21 13:18:03 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-21 14:35:27 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EM  2008-05-21 23:13:16 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-05-21 16:49:16 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
Mohammed the Holy Fucke  2008-05-22 03:15:48 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
PaPaPeng <PaPaPeng@[EM  2008-05-22 12:12:29 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-22 20:48:45 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
ltlee1 <ltlee1@[EMAIL   2008-05-22 06:42:55 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
bmoore@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-22 08:44:29 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-22 10:58:34 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-23 12:10:39 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
rst0wxyz <rst0wxyz@[EM  2008-05-23 11:04:05 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:31:38 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:31:40 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-23 23:38:09 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:31:37 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
"abianchen@[EMAIL PR  2008-05-24 00:31:36 
Re: Taiwan leader: China unification unlikely 'in our lifetimes'
Jim Walsh <jimNOwalsSP  2008-05-25 16:31:42 

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