Re: China: Mandate of heaven?

Only an idiot would use western philosophical mindset to understand
Oriental wisdom. And we have just found one.

On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:39:35 -0700, "Albert K. Fung"
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> wrote:

>A regrettable slight of hand ....
>
>"Metaphorical" in the humble posting, should have been "meta
>-physical". The eminent Con****ianist, Xun Zi, was widely ac-
>claimed as pivotal, in the transformation of China's seminal
>school of thought.
>
>And propel it into philosophy ....
>
>Regards,
>
>Albert K. Fung
>Casa Tres Palmas, Santa Ynez, California, USA.
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>>> 天道有常，不為堯存，不為桀亡 .... (荀子/天論篇)
>> 
>> pan6pcpc:
>> 
>>> Do you really understand the sentence above ?
>>> It means "The nature has its own rules,which does not depend on
whether
>>> the emperor is cruel or kind".
>>>
>>> And you maybe know these:
>>> 子曰:未知生,焉知死?
>>> 子曰:未能事人,焉能事鬼?
>>> 子不语怪力乱神。
>> 
>> Just a few points of fact ....
>> 
>> Nature, is not the Chinese notiion of heaven. The former, is
>> passive and amoral. While the latter is anthropomorphic, and
>> benevolent.
>> 
>> Dao, is far more comprehensive and encompassing than rule.
>> 
>> A more appropriate translation is: "The Heaven, moves in its
>> consistent ways and does not entertain favoritism."
>> 
>> As to the quotes from the Con****ian Analects, one must under
>> -stand that the gentleman from Qufu does not have an body of
>> work that amounts to a philosophical system.  His followers,
>> the likes of 荀子, labored hard to give the school of thought
>> a metaphorical foundation, among other theoretical contribut
>> -ions. Without which Con****ianism would just be a collection
>> of inconsistent moral imperatives.
>> 
>> And contradictory ethical dictums ....
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