On Jun 12, 8:32=A0am, beernuts <beerwithn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Jun 5, 1:33 pm, EMBALMER <Embal...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> the thing drydem (Walter) must ask himself is, why must criticism of
> China, whether over its handling of the Earthquake destruction, or
> anything else, be juxtaposed and compared with similar bad government
> choices and decisions in other countries? =A0
Beernuts (Chris), analysis of why decision or solutions failed
not only tell us what not to do be can sometimes lead us to
solutions or decisions that can succesed. What makes Katrina
Hurrican and the Sichuan Earthquake similar is the magnitude
of the disaster. Size matters when it comes to logistics.
What you need to ask yourself -Beernuts (chris) - is
whether you have become so-sensitive that you can't step
back and look at this objectively?
> Doesn't the Chinese govt deserve to be analyzed and,
> yes, critiqued, without distorting the story by bringing up
> Bush, Katrina, or for that matter, any other govt
> or foreign tragedy? =A0 What's the goal? =A0
What distortion? Analysis of large scale disasters
are not done in a laboratory with control and and experimental
population. Sometimes when there is a global problem like
the avian flu - you can compare the effectiveness of
a goverment respose. However - the Katrina and Sichuan
Earthquake disaster an objective analysis requires making
comparisons of solutions to other disasters of similar pro****tions.
The Katrina Hurricane disaster appears to be of similar scope
in geographic impact area - albeit less people died from it than
the chinese Sichuan earthquake disaster. Of particular interest
to me is the mass evacuation of people and the deployment
of emergency services.
> To excuse bad choices in one place, by one govt, by
> bad choices in another? =A0That's ridiculous.
It only looks that way to you because you are blinded by your own
pride.
> =A0It might make Walter feel better, but it certainly doesn't make the
> victims of the CCP's poor response and clumsy handling any better.
No. It's not the CCP poor response - if the CCP had the best
earthquake forecasting equipment from Japan or Taiwan the
CCP would still not be able to handle it any better. Today's
early warning systems for earthquakes is about less than
a few minutes. From what I've been reading - there's nothing
inherently poor or clumsy with the Chinese emergency response
and the major cause of loss of life is not due to their emergency
response plan or implementation but the failure or lack of
a strict enforcement of earthquake resistance building codes.
> It's a tact common to CCP spokespeople and CCP apologists everywhere -
> fend of criticism by comparing yourself to [fill in the blank]. =A0 The
> Chinese people deserve better.
I disagree - a CCP spokesperson or CCP apologist don't commonly
compare themselves to the USA, Bush or FEMA.
It's not that Chinese people don't deserve better but the CCP mindset
is really much more focus on China (that is to say the rest of the
world doesn't matter). IMHO - critical comparisons are more of a
common tact among westerners - especially in the USA. Some like
Beernuts(chris) may perceive my critical comparison as a defense - but
that's because he's taken offensive to it. Which reminds me of that
old USA football adage - the best defense is an good offense...or as a
sophist might say.....The best verbal defense is be verbally
offensive. LOL :-)
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