On Jul 2, 1:10=A0pm, "abianc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <abianc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
> It's sad to see Chinese commies have to use Cisco, Yahoo, Google etc
> to "exterminate" its own people as you claimed here, they should just
> copy US government's "native American genocide".
>
> http://www.wicocomico-indian-nation.com/pages/genocide.html
>
> On May 20, 10:20=A0am, Hairy Dope <****te...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>
So, you are comparing China in 2008 to America in 1610, are you? Are
you suggesting that the mentality of the Chinese today is equal to the
mentality of Americans 398 years ago? You are saying that the Chinese
mentality is about 400 years behind that of the Americans?
>
> > It's well known that GOOGLE and YAHOO long ago, in cyber time, have
> > been enabling the Chinese Commies to thwart and disable their
> > citizens' access to the Internet, which as we know conveys news and
> > information that definitely would be harmful to the slavemasters' grip
> > on power over some 1.3 billion people.
>
> > And China -- being a potentially economic GIANT on a par with the U.S.
> > -- China cannot be ignored by the Ciscos of the world. =A0Even if it
> > means assisting a nation whose history is replete with mass
> > extermination of its own people!
>
> > ------------------------------
> > "Cisco File Raises Censor****p Concerns
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> > "Do***ent Implies Sup****t for China"
>
> > By Glenn Kessler
> > Wa****ngton Post Staff Writer
> > Tuesday, May 20, 2008; D01
>
> > Cisco Systems, seeking to penetrate the Chinese market, prepared an
> > internal marketing presentation in which it appeared to be willing to
> > assist the Chinese Ministry of Public Security in its goal of
> > "combating Falun Gong evil cult and other hostile elements," according
> > to a translation of a do***ent obtained by congressional
> > investigators.
>
> > The Cisco presentation will take center stage today at a hearing of
> > the Senate Judiciary Committee on the Global Internet Freedom Act,
> > which aims to defeat Internet censor****p. The Wa****ngton Post obtained
> > a copy of the presentation, the authenticity of which was confirmed by
> > Cisco.
>
> > Falun Gong is a spiritual movement that has been harshly repressed by
> > the Chinese government, which claims the group is engaged in illegal
> > activities.
>
> > In its PowerPoint presentation, Cisco referred to the Chinese
> > government's project to control the Internet, including its use by
> > groups such as Falun Gong. After a slide referencing the crackdown on
> > Falun Gong, the next slide proclaims: "Cisco Op****tunity: High start-
> > point planning, High standard construction, Technical training,
> > Security and operation maintenance."
>
> > A Cisco spokeswoman said the do***ent was six years old and was
> > intended only for internal use by Cisco's Chinese employees, not as a
> > marketing tool to entice business from the Chinese government. "The
> > inclusion of the statement was not appropriate," said Jennifer Greeson
> > Dunn. "It was simply a restatement of the government's objectives. It
> > has nothing to do with Cisco's objectivity and Cisco's technologies.
> > We are very much for freedom of expression."
>
> > Still, Cisco has sold the Chinese Ministry of Public Security what
> > Greeson Dunn called "generic routing and switching technologies"
> > designed to make the communications infrastructure more efficient. She
> > said Cisco has not sold any equipment meant to "identify dissidents or
> > hostile elements."
>
> > Mark Chandler, senior vice president and general counsel for Cisco,
> > will testify at the hearing held by the human rights subcommittee of
> > the Senate Judiciary Committee, as will Google and Yahoo executives.
> > Lawmakers will seek to determine whether Cisco is just selling
off-the-
> > shelf technology or is helping China apply that technology to control
> > dissent.
>
> > A committee staff member, speaking on condition of anonymity because
> > the hearing had not yet been held, said that despite Cisco's claims of
> > innocence, the presentation "raises troubling questions about what
> > they are doing." He noted that Cisco, which provides the hardware that
> > governments such as China use for firewalls and surveillance systems,
> > has regularly assured lawmakers that it does not know how its products
> > are used and does not market products for censor****p. Now, he said,
> > "we don't know what the truth is."
>
> > The House Foreign Affairs Committee has passed the Global Online
> > Freedom Act to curtail the ability of U.S. companies to help foreign
> > governments censor the Internet. The bill, which has been endorsed by
> > many human rights groups and is squarely aimed at China as host of the
> > 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, makes it a crime for U.S. companies
> > to turn over personal information on their users if the government
> > intends to repress the citizens. But opponents criticize the
> > legislation as taking a simplistic approach to a complex international
> > issue, putting private companies in the middle of a dispute between
> > governments.
>
> > Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), who is chairing the hearing, has not
> > endorsed the House legislation but is seeking more information for
> > possibly proposing his own legislation.
>
>
>http://www.wa****ngtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/19/AR200...-=
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