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by "hawker@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <flink@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 20, 2005 at 10:27 PM

Introduction



Although many Cumbric words have survived in Scots and English examples of

written Cumbric take precedence. Concerning the survival of Cumbric 
vocabulary, Mr. Whittaker in Volume Two, pages 233 to 329, in his History
of 
Manchester, has provided a list of three thousand North Country Cumbric 
words that have entered the vocabulary of Standard English. In addition 
Mr.Davies supplied in a paper that he contributed to The Transactions of
the 
Philological Society in 1885 another long list of North Country Cumbric 
words that have passed into Standard English. Mr. Davies commented that
many 
low, burlesque, and obscene words in the Lancashire dialect can be traced 
back to Cumbric. Furthermore, Mr. Garnet in Volume One, page 171, of the 
Transaction of the Philological Society, also supplied a similar list of 
Cumbric words. Proof of the late survival of Cumbric as a spoken language
in 
Cumbria exists in the place-name Cumwhinton, which contains the Norman 
personal name Quinton, and which means Quinton's Valley.  In addition the 
survival of Cumbric field-names and the presence of three Cumbric words in
a 
medieval manuscript called Leges Inter Brettos et Scottos lend further 
support for the persistence of Cumbric. The so called Shepherd's 
enumeration, which in fact was mainly used by knitters, must also be taken

into account. Cumbric arose from Prythonic, which was the ancestor of all
P 
Celtic languages. Prythonic developed into Proto-Welsh, Proto-Breton, 
Proto-Cornish, and Proto-Cumbric. Proto-Cumbric was widely spoken
throughout 
Scotland, Northern England, and in the North Midlands. It is possible that

the area in which Proto-Cumbric was spoken even stretched much further 
south. Place-name evidence reveals that Cumbric shared features in common 
with both Welsh and Cornish, and while in some ways Cumbric was more 
innovative than either Welsh or Cornish, certain features of Cumbric can 
only be described as being archaic. Some place-names, such as Pennigant in

Scotland and Penyghent in England, have preserved elements of what may
have 
been two dialects of Cumbric, for example the morpheme -gant and -ghent
are 
derived from the Cumbric word *caint, which means a plateaux, and which
was 
variously pronounced as *cant and *cent. Some Cumbric place-names, such as

Larbet and Eccle Fechan, have even preserved elements of Cumbric grammar. 
These grammatical elements indicate that Cumbric was, with a few
exceptions, 
identical to Medieval Welsh. This of course opens up the possibility of 
reconstructing Cumbric in much the same was that Nance reconstructed 
Kernewek, and other scholars reconstructed Cornoak. Kernewek is a 
reconstruction of medieval Cornish, whereas Cornoak is the reconstruction
of 
Cornish as it would have been spoken just before its demise. A similar 
division between reconstructed early and reconstructed late Cumbric can be

by deriving early reconstructed Cumbric from place-names, and late 
reconstructed Cumbric from the surviving Cumbric word in Scots and North 
Country dialect. Although paucity of vocabulary is no obstacle to the 
reconstruction of Cumbric, for example Basic English contains a core 
vocabulary of no more that a thousand words; it is possible to borrow
Welsh 
words, which indeed was done by Nance. In addition the edition of the
Times 
newspaper of the 3rd. January 1991 carried a report that first appeared in

Le Mond, according to which Lukiann Kergoat, the head of Breton and Celtic

Studies at the University of Rennes, and chairperson of a committee called

Kreizhenn ar Geriauin, intended to create twenty thousand new Breton word
in 
order to bring Breton up to date by respelling Welsh words. Northern
England 
was guest to a large number of Danish and Norwegian settlers, mostly
farmers 
and traders. Place-names such as Blennerhasset in Cumbria indicate that 
Scandinavian words were absorbed into Cumbric, thus allowing the modern 
words of science and technology, such as *telefision, to be adopted in 
Reconstructed Cumbric, thus following the example of Basic English. In 
addition many Roman laws, taxes, policing, and modes of administration are

recorded in the Doomsday Book as having survived in Northern England. 
Archaeological evidence at Wharram Percy, and field and air surveys over
the 
North Yorkshire Moors, reveal continuity throughout the sub-Roman period 
without any evidence for the replacement of the native Romano-British 
population by Anglo-Saxons. The importance of this lies in the fact that
the 
abandoned settlements and villages in the area, which arose from the 
eviction of the population in order to create grazing land for sheep, are 
veritable time capsules going back to the Roman occupation of Britain. The

smallness of numbers of Angles in the North-East of England is indicated
by 
the fact that once during a siege the Anglian population retired to 
Bamborough Rock, which would indicate that a small number of Angles ruled 
over a large population of Celtic peasants. The fate of these Angles after

the Danish settlement of Northern England is uncertain, but it is unlikely

that any of the Anglo-Saxons survived, at best some might have continued
as 
broken men, and others would have departed. The reconstruction of Cumbric 
will at least restore a version of the ancient language not only of
Northern 
England, but also of Scotland. Northern England, which some authors have 
called Brigantia, lost its last vestige of autonomy when the Council of
the 
North, which sat at York, was abolished in 1640 AC.



 In the interests of promoting the use of Reconstructed Cumbric, copyright

is waived on condition that Cumbric is described as a native language of 
Scotland and Brigantia. Please remember.







                                              List of Abbreviations



Bret. Breton

Chs. Cheshire

c. circa

cf. confer

Corn. Cornish (Kernewek)

Cu. Cumberland

Db. Derbyshire

Dur. Durham

Lancs. Lancashire

Lei. Leicestershire

M.W. Medieval Welsh

Nrth. Northumberland

Notts, Notthinghamshire

R.C. Reconstructed Cumbric

Shr. Shropshire

Shrews. Shrewsbury

Staffs. Staffordshire

Wor. Worcestershire

Wst. Westmorland

W. Welsh

Yorks. Yorkshire

                                             Cumbric Place-Names



                                                                A



Aberruthven: nr. Auchterrarder, Scot., cf. W. aber rudd faen, Corn. aber 
ruth ven, (red stone conflux), R.C. *aber rudd fain.

Ashton-in-Makerfield: Lancs.., Ashton c.1225, cf. Ince-in-Makerfield;
cf.W. 
magwyr & Corn magor (wall or ancient ruin). R.C. *magwy, variant *magor,
see 
Eaglesfield.

Aspatria: Cu., Aspatric c.1230, a Norse-Cumbric hybrid, this place-name 
preserves a Cumbric genitive.



                                                                B



Barpennald: Cu., cf.W. bar pen allt & Corn. bar pen als, (top of chief 
cliff). R.C. *bar pen alth

Barroc Fell: Cu., Barroc c.1295, cf. M.W. barawg, a spur. This place-name 
preserves a Cumbric adjectival suffix.

Barwick-in-Elmet: cf.W. *Barwyg-yn-Elved, bar (hilltop) and gwyg
(coppice).

Bathgate: Scot., Bathchet, c.1160, Bathkethe c.1337, cf.W.baedd goed &
Corn. 
both gos, (boar's wood). R.C. * baith gaith. NB. the lenition in the
modern 
name; this is indicative of the persistence of Cumbric in the area.

Birdoswald: Cu., Borddoswald c.1200, cf.W. buarth, (cow fold of dairy);
cf. 
Burtholm. R.C. *burth

Birkby: Cu., Brethesco c.1203, N. Breta Skogr, (Britton's Wood.); cf. 
Briscow.

Blawith: Cu., Blawit c.1276, cf., W. blaedd wydd & Corn. blydd with (wolf 
wood). R.C. *blaith with

Blencarn: Cu., Blencarne c.1159, Blenecarn c.1210, Blencarn 1211, cf. W. 
blaen y carn, cf. Corn. blyn an carn, (top of the burial mound); R.C.
*blain 
y carn

Blencathra: Cu., Blenkarthure c. 1589, cf. W. blaen cader, (throne
summit); 
R.C. *blain cadder. The alternative name for this fell is Saddleback.

Blencogo: Cu., Blenecogou c.1292, cf. W. blaen y cogau & Corn. blyn an 
cogas, (hill of cuckoos). R.C. *blain y cogow. This place name preserves a

Cumbric suffix.

Blencow: Cu. Blenkhaw c.1254. A hybrid Cumbric-Norse place-name, *blain 
(haugr) meaning hill top.

Blennerhesset: Cu. Blennerhaiseta c. 1188, a hybrid Cumbric-Norse 
place-name, *blain yr haisetr, meaning crest of the hay field. This 
place-name establishes that the definite article y became yr before H.

Blindcrake: Cu. Blenecrayc c.1268, cf. W. blaen y cr aig, (summit of the 
rock); R.C. *blain y craic.

Brant Fell: Yorks. a hybrid Cumbric-Norse place-name meaning steep 
hill/mountain. The word brant, together with its variant brent, are still
in 
use as a dialect word meaning steep. This is an example of the survival of

Cumbric in dialect as well as in a place-name.

Bredon: Lei. Briudun c.730, meaning either the summit of a down or a fort.

Breedon: Wor. Beodun c.722, as above.

Briscow: Cu., Brethesco c.1203, see Birkby.

Burtholm: Cu., Burtholm c.1256, a hybrid Cumbric-Norse place-name meaning
a 
dairy or cow fold on the spur of a hill. See. Birdoswald.



                                                                 C



Cairndinnis: Scot., near Dunplelder, cf.W. carn dinas (a mound retreat). A

dinas was a temporary fortified retreat as distinct from caer, which was a

permanent stone-built stronghold such as a castle or farm-house, also cf. 
Dinas Sitch Tor, Db. behind the Snake in on Snake Pass.

Calder: Lancs., Kalder c.1200, cf. W. place-names Calettwr and Clettwr, 
(hard water, i.e. fast flowing river), W. called dwr; R.C. *caleth *dwr.
The 
word cal has acquired a new meaning in Welsh and Cornish, therefore it is 
supposed the original was*Calthdwr.

Cambeck: Nth. Camboc c.1169, Cambec c.1622, (a meandering stream).

Camblesford: Yorks. Camelesford c.1311, cf.W. cam y lais, (bend on the 
stream). R.C. *cam y lais.

Camerton: Cu., Camerton c. 1150, cf.W. cymmer, (conflux), R.C. *cwmmer.

Capledre: Scot. Lochere in Linlithgow, cf.W. ceffyl dre, (horse town) R.C.

*capel dre, cappel is a dialect word meaning a horse.

Capplerigg: Cu., see Capledre above.

Caraverick: Cu., Caraverick c.1150, the name of a lost settlement in Leath

Ward of Cumberland. Caraverick c.1150, cf.W. caer efrog (farmhouse amid 
cowslips), R.D. *cair *afyric. NB. the intrusive y before R and initial E 
changed to A.

Carcowe: Wst. a field-name in West Ward of Westmorland. A hybrid 
Cumbric-Norse field-name, *Cair Haugr. The importance of a Celtic word 
appearing in a field-name is that it indicates a late survival of spoken 
Cumbric in West Ward.

Cardew: Cu., Carthew c.1287, cf. W. caer ddu, (black farmhouse), R.C.
*cair 
*ddu.

Cardrona: Traquair in Peebles, Scot., Cardronow c. 1500, cf.W. caer
dronau, 
(fort circle, i.e., of standing stones), R.C. *cair dronow. This place
name 
contains the cambric plural -ow.

Cardunneth Pike: Cu., Cardunnoke c.1386, cf.W. caer Dunod, (Donatus' 
farmhouse), R.C. *cair Dunoth: see also Dintsmere, Chs., boundary of 
Donatus, also see Dinting, Chs., Dintinge, c. 1226, place of Donatus, 
Dinthill, Shrews., Dunthill c. 1200, hill of Dontatus, R.C. *Dunoth.,

Cardurnock: Cu., Cardrunnoke, c. 1386, cf.W. caer *durenog (pebbly 
farmhouse), c f. W. duren (pebble, steel, flint). NB. the disappearance of
E 
between consonant R and nasal N. R.C. *cair durnoc.

Carfrae: Scot., Lauderdale in Berwickshire, cf.W. caer fre (hill fort).
NB. 
this place-name has preserved the lenition of B into V. R.V. *cair fre

Cark: Lancs. Karke c.1491, cf.W. careg (stone). NB. the disappearance of E

between the consonants R and K. R.C. * carc.

Carkin: Yorks. Karrecan c. 1200, Kercan, c. 1200, cf.W. careg can (white 
stone). See also Cargo, Cu. From Carec Haugr, hybrid Celtic-Norse
place-name 
meaning White Hill. NB. the disappearance of E after R and before C. R.C. 
*carc can.

Carnetly: Cu., Carnthelaue c.1230. (Burial Mound of Teilo.), cf.,
Llanteilo 
in Wales. NB. that this place-name appears to preserve an aspirate
mutation. 
R.C. * carn teilo.

Carwath: Scot., Lanarkshire, Karnewid c.1179, Carnewithe c.1315, Carnwith
c. 
1451, cf.W. carn y gwydd (durial mound of trees), cf. Corn. carn an gwyth.

R.C. *carn y gwydd.

Carrick: Wst., cf. local dialect word currock and currick meaning a cairn
or 
heap of stones, cf. Carrick in Scotland. The survival of Cumbric words in 
Scots and North Country dialect serves as the basis of the argument that 
Cumbric never really died out.

Carrock Fell: Cu., Carroc c. 1208, cf.W. carog (fenced, walled, or 
fortified).R.C. *caroc.

Carwinley: Cu., Carwyndelawe c. 1292, Karwendelowe c.1281, Carwyndelowe 
c.1300, cf. W. caer Wenddoleu (Gwenddoleu's Castle). R.C. *cair Wenddolaw.

Castle Carrock: Cu., Castelcairoc x.1165, Castelcarroc c. 1212, cf. W. 
castell caerog. R.C. *castel cairoc.

Castel Hewin: Cu., Castelewyne c.1272, Castle Hewin c.1794, cf.W. castell 
Owain (Owain's castle). This castle is legended to have been the castle of

Eugenius Caesarius, a king of Cumbria who expelled the Angles and 
re-established British rule after the Saxons had been driven out. R.C. 
*castel Ewain. RC. *cader lan.

Catterlen: Cu., Caderlen c. 1165, cf. W. cader llan (hermitage throne). 
Cader in this case is from the Greek word kathedra meaning a bishop's 
throne. Cumberland, as well as Elmet and Cornwall, were Christian
throughout 
the sub-Roman era, and were not reconverted to Christianity by Irish
monks.

Catterton: Yorks. Cadreton c.1230, a hybrid English and Cumbric place-name

meaning fort enclosure. NB. This place-name preserves a Saxon word just as

Blennerhasset has preserved a Norse word.

Cairndinnis: Scot., near Dunpelder, this could possible mean the burial 
mound of Dionysius.

Chadderton: Lancs. see Catterton.

Cheadle: Chs. Chedle c.1153 (wood hill). A hybrid Cumbric and English
place 
name.

Cheetham: Lancs. Chetham c. 1226 (wood pasture) A hybrid Cumbric and
English 
place name.

Clesketts: Cu. Closchet c.1245, cf.W. clas coed (glebe wood), clas is an 
enclosed space, a green covering of grass, or glebe land. R.C. *clas
caidd.

Comberbach: Chs. Comburbach c.1333 (stream of the Cwmbro), cf.W. cymro, 
Corn. kembro, from Prythonic cumbrogi meaning a compatriot. R.C. * *cwmbro

boc. NB. In Cumbric W and O did not become Y before nasal plus stop as in 
Welsh, Breton, and Cornish. This is a distinctive feature of Cumbric, one
of 
several that indicate that Cumbric was a separate language even though 
similar to Welsh.

Combermere: Chs. Cumbremara c.1157, (compatriot wasteland). R.C. *cwmbru 
myr.

Comberford: Staffs, this indicates that Cumbric was once spoken in the
North 
Midlands, see also. Wor. Comberton, Lancs Comberhalgh.

Condor: Lancs. Condovere c.1246, cf.W. cam dwfr (crooked waters). R.C.
*cam 
dwfr.

Coulderton: Cu., Culdreton c.1180, cf.W. cul dir (narrow land). R.C. *cul 
dir. This is a very interesting place name because it acquired the English

word ton in the 12th.century, which would indicate that it was about this 
time that Scots began to replace Cumbric in Cumberland, which was the last

refuge of spoken Cumbric.

Couwhencatte: Cu., Cumquencath c.1169. (Gwencad's valley). Gwencad is a 
personal name that means White Battle. R.C. *cwm Cwencadd. NB. the
mutation 
of G into C.

Culcheth: Lancs., Culchet c.1201, Kulcheth c.1246, cf. W. cul goed (narrow

wood), RC. *cul gaidd.

Culgaith: Cu., Culchet c.1203, Culgayth c.1232, cf. W. cul goed (narrow 
wood). Culgayth and Culgaith are verifications of the Reconstructed
Cumbric 
*cul gaidd.

Cumcath: Cu., Cumcache c.1292, cf.W. cwm cach (dung valley), RC. *cwm
cach.

Cumcrook: Cu., Cumcruk c.1295, cf.W. cwm crug (valley mound), RC. *cwm
cruc.

Cumdivock: Cu., Cumdevoc c. 1244. Devoc's Valley, Prythonic personal name 
Dubacos meaning Dark or Swathy Man, cf.W. duog (dark), RC. *dufoc. NB. the

persistence of the intrusive F, which is absent in the Welsh version of
this 
adjective.

Cummersdale: Cu. Cumbredal c.1227. A hybric Cumbric and Norse place name 
meaning the Valley of the Cymru, cf. also Cumberland: Cumbraland c.945,
cf. 
also Cumberhill in Derbyshire, Cumberworth in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, 
see also Cumberbach cf. W. Cymru, RC. *Cwmbru. NB. The persistence of stop
B 
after nasal M, and the persistence of W before nasal plus stop.

RC. *Cwmbru

Cumrew: Cu., Cumreu c.1200, Cumrew c.1209, cf.W. cwm rhiw, (valley slope).

RC. *cwm riw.

Cumwhinton: Cu., Cumquinton c.1227. Quinton's Valley. Quinton is a 
Norman-French personal name. This place-name is proof that Cumbric was 
spoken after William Duke of Normandy succeeded Edward the Confessor.

Crakeplace Hall: Cu., Crakeplace c.1288, cf.W. craig plas (stone manor).
RC. 
*craic plas.

Crew: Chs. Cruwe c.1190, Cruue c.1288, cf.W. cryw (a ford or stepping 
stones), cf. Crewgarth in Cumberland,cf. W. cryw garth (ford farm)..RC. 
*cryw garth

Crich: Db., Cryc c.1009, cf.W. crug (a hill). RC. *cruc.

Crickheath: Shr., Cruchet c.1272, cf.W. crug (a mound). RC. *cruc gaidd 
(wood containing a burial mound).

Crofton Bridge: Cu., formerly Waspatrickwath, meaning the Ford of
Patrick's 
Servant. Patrick was a local saint who attained fame in Ireland,
Gwaspatrick 
or Sevant of Patrick was a local fore-name.

Cruckton: Shr. Crocton c.1272, Crokton c.1308, cf. W. crug (burial mound),

RC. *cruc.







                                                                D

Dacre: Cu., Dakre c.1292, cf. W. deigre (a tear drop). Dacre refers to a 
nearby stream, cf. Dacre in Yorkshire. NB. that the Welsh diphthong EI, 
pronounced as I, eye, and aye in English is pronounced as short A in 
Cumbric. RC. *daicre.

Dacre Beck: Cu., Dakerbek c.1323, RC. *daicre boc (tear stream).

Dalkieth: Scot., Dolchet c.1144, Dalkethe c.1337, cf.W. dal coed (meadow 
wood). RC.* dal caidd. NB. that the Cumbric *caidd has become the personal

name Kieth.

Dalfibble: Scot., Dumfries, cf.W. dal pebyll (spread tent), RC.*dal febyl.

NB. the mutation of P into F in this Cumbric place-name.

Dane: Chs. Dauuen c.1220, Daan c.1416, cf.W. dafn (a drip), cf. also 
Davenport in Cheshire meaning 'Drip Paved Road'. RC.*dafn.

Desoglin: Cu., Dassoglen c.1596. Oglen is related to the Welsh ogl meaning

full of motion or life, in Welsh das means a heap. This place name could
be 
construed to mean a heap of a certain substance that is full of certain 
living beings, but it probably refers to nearby marshy ground. RC. *das 
oglyn.

Devoke: Duvokeswater c. 1205, Duffockiswatir c.1280, the place-name means 
Dubacos' Lake, water referring to a lake or loch.

Dinthill: Shrews. Duntull c.1299, (Donatus' hill), cf. Dintsmere: Chs. 
Donatus' boundary mark, also Dinting: Chs. Duntinge c.1226,
(Donatus'place),

Dinwiddie: Scot. Roxburgh, Dunwedy c.1504, cf. Dunwoody in Dumfries, cf.
W. 
gwyddfa (woody place, a Bardic seat), and cf. Gwyddfa (Snowdon). NB., 
Dinwiddie and Dunwoody would be suitable places to hold a Scottish 
Eisteddfod.

Dollerline: Cu., Dallerline c.1598, cf.W. dol ar lefniad (loop on the 
smoothness). RC. *dol ar lefni. This place name refers to an ox-bow.

Douglas: Lancs., cf.W. glais (a stream), see also Diggles in Lancashire, 
both meaning black stream. RC. *du glais, NB. that the adjective precedes 
the noun. Douglas is also the surname of a well known Lancashire family,
and 
is also used as a forename.

Dove Dale: Db. Duuendale c.1296, cf. River Dove in Derbyshire, Dufan
c.951, 
Duue c. 1228, cf. also Dove Holes in Derbyshire. RC. *dufyn, diminutive of

*duf meaning dark.

Dover Beck: Notts. Doverbec c.1227, cf.W. dwfr (waters). RC. *dwfr boc 
(stream of waters).

Dunreggit: Scot., Fort of Rheged, see Rochdale. Rheged was a British
kingdom 
that included S.E. Scotland and N.W. England. RC. *dwn regedd.

Dreva: Scot., Tweed. Cf.W. y dre fa (the village place). RC. *y dre fa.
NB. 
the lenition.

Drumburgh: Cu., Drumboc c.1225. Old Welsh drwm bach (small ridge). RC.
*drwm 
bach.

                                                                E



Eccles: Lancs. Eccles c.1200, cf. Yorks Ecclesall, Eccleshale c.1205, cf. 
Ecclesfield, Ecclesfeld c.1109, Eccleshill, and Lancs. Eccleston,
Ecclestine 
c. 1190, Great & Little Eccleston, Ecleston c.1285, and Db Eccles Pike, 
Ecclesbourne, and Staff. Eccleshall, and Drh. Egglescliffe, and Cu. 
Eglesfield, Eglesfeld c.1290, and Scot. Ecclefechan, cf. W. eglwys & Corn.

Eglos, NB. the archaicism of these place-names in that the final vowel 
remained unchanged. RC. *egles.

Eddleston: Scot. Formerly Pentiacob, Jacob's penthouse. RC. *pent Iacob

Etherow: Chs. Ederhou c.1221, Ederou c.1285, Edderowe c.1290, cf. W. edd 
(glide), and haw (sluggish). RC. *edd yr how.

Ewanrigg: Co. Evenrigg c.1295, Ouenrig c.1332, Owain's Ridge. RC. *Owain



                                                               G



Gawswoth: Chs. Gouseworth c. 1276, cf.W. gof (a smith). RC. *gof

Gilcrux: Cu. Killecruce c. 1175, cf.W. cil y crug (retreat by the
hillock). 
Rc. *cil y cruc.

Glasgow: Scot. Glasgu c.1136, cf.W. glas gau (green hollow). RC. *glas
gow.

Glencoyn: Cu.Glencaine c.1212 Glenekone c.1255, Glencon c.1291, cf.W. glyn

cawn (valley of reed). RC. *glyn cown

Glencoyne: Wst. Glencaine c.1212, Glenekone c.1255, Glencon c.1291, 
Glenkwent c.1577, Glenkwen c.1622. NB. This and the above place-name have 
been influence by the imposition of the English Gaelic word cain, meaning 
beautiful. The elements of English Gaelic in place-names are too few to 
attempt the reconstruction of English Gaelic.

Glendermackin: Cu. Glenermakon c.1278, cf.W. glyn y magon (valley of 
berries.) RC. *glyn y macon.

Glenderterra: Cu. Glunduvar c.1247, Glenderterray c.1729, cf.W. glyn dwfr 
terion (valley of pure water.) RC. *glyn dwfr terion. NB. The 18thcent. 
place-name has preserved *terion.

Glenridding: Wst. Glenredyn c.1292, cf.O.W. glinn redin, W. glyn rhedyn.

Glensax: Scot. Peebles, and Gensaxon in Dumfries, cf.W. glyn sais (Saxon 
Valley.) RC. *glyn saix. NB. The Cumbric archaism preserves the
penultimate 
C.

Goyt: Chs. Recorded as both Gwith and Gote in the 14th cent., cf.W. gwyth
(a 
narrow channel), Corn. goth & gwith. RC. *gwyth & goth. NB. The Welsh 
diphthong WY appears either as WI or O in Cumbric and Cornish. The 
pronunciation of long O as the diphthong OI was once a feature of the
local 
dialect.

Gragareth: The Three Men of Gragareth: Yorks, Whernside, a topographical 
feature. Could be reconstructed into Welsh as y tri mein y gorgaered, 
meaning the three rocks (y tri mein) of the limit (gor) of the city wall 
(gaered). RC. *y tri mein y gor gairedd.



                                                                 H



Hesketh: Lancs. Heschate c.1288, Heskayth c.1298, c.W. hais coed (prickle 
wood). RC. *hais caidd.

Heskin: Lancs. Heskyn c.1257, cf. W. hesgen (sedge, rush). RC. *hescen.

Hints: Staff. Hintes c.1199, also Hints, Shr. Hintes c. 1242, Hyntes
c.1292, 
cf.W. hynt (road, way, course). RC. *hynt



                                                                  I



Ince: Chs. Ynes c.1100, also Ince in Makerfield, cf.W. ynys. RC. *ynys

Inchkieth: Scot., cf.W. ynys coed (island wood). RC. *ynys caith.



                                                                 K



Keldowansik: Wst. A field-name containing a Norse word and a Celtic
personal 
name meaning Owain's spring. The existence of these Cumbric field names is

evidence of the persistence of Cumbric as a spoken language.

Kent: Lancs. A river-name, also Kennet, cf.W.cynnwyd (primary element).
RC. 
*cynnwith, var. *cynnoth.

Kenyon: Lancs. Kenien c.1212, cf.W. crug Enion (Enion's burial mound). RC.

*cruc Enion.

Ketton: Rut. Ketene c.1174, Chetena c.1146, cf.W. coeden (a tree). RC. 
*caidden

Kirkbrynnok: Cu. c.1339. A lost place-name, Kirkja Brynach, Brynach's 
Church. Note the adoption of a Norse word yet Celtic grammar.

Kirkcambeck: Cu. Camboc c.1177, Kirkecamboc c.1280. Church (kirkja) on the

crooked stream (camboc).

Kirkley: Nth. Crikelawa c. 13th. Cent. A hybrid Celtic Saxon word meaning 
hill (cruc) hill (hlaw).

                                                                 L



Lamplough: Cu. Lamplou c. 1150, cf.W. llan plwyf, (parish church), cf.
Corn. 
lan plov. RC. *lan plof.

Lanark: Scot. Cf.W. llanerch (hay-field). RC. *lanarch. NB. The short E 
before R plus stop has become short A.

Landican: Cu. Landekan c. 1281, cf. Llandegfan in Anglesay, Tegfan's
Church. 
RC. *lan decfan. NB. Note the lenition.

Lanercost: Cu. Lanercost c. 1271, cf.W. llanerch Awst, Augustus's
hay-field. 
RC.  *lan Owst.

Lanrekaythin: Cu. Lanrecaithin c.1210. A lost place-name, cf.W. llanerch 
eithin (meadow of furze). RC. *lanarch aithin.

Larbet: Scot., Sterlingshire, Lethberth c. 1196, cf.W. leddberth 
(semi-bush). RC. *leddberth.

Laver: Yorks. Lauer c. 1307, also. Laversdale in Cumberland, Laverton in 
Yorkshire, a river-name, cf.W. llafr (spreading) RC. * lafer.

Leeds: Yorks. Loidis c.730 (Bede), Ledes c.1196, possible a river-name 
meaning flowing.

Leen: Notts. Liene c.1200, also Lyne in Northumberland, Lina c.1050, cf.W.

lliant (torent). RC. *lian. NB. Absence of final S.

Leswalt: Scot. Galloway, cf.W. llys wellt (grassy court of manour house). 
RC. *lys walt. NB. Note the change of short E into short A before liquid 
plus stop. In Welsh gwallt means hair.

Leven: Chs. A river-name, Levene c.12^0, also Leven in Lancashire and 
Yorkshire, cf.W. llyfniad (smootness). RC. *lyfeni.

Lickle: Lancs. River-name, Licul c.1140, cf.O.W. llig (gliding out or 
through). RC. *licol (abounding in water courses)..

Lindefferon: Scot. Fife, see Hint, cf.W. llyn dwr hynt (flowing water 
course). RC.*lin dwr hynt.

Lindow: Chs. cf.W. llyn ddu (black lake).

Lindreth: Cu. cf.W. llyn ddrud (flow-rapid, i.e. a torrent). RC. *lin 
ddrudd.

Lingmell Crag: cf W. grug moel craig (heather-bald crag). RC. * ling mail 
craic.

Linlithgow: Scot. Linlithcou c.1150, cf.W. llyn llaith cau (lake wet 
hollow). RC. *lin laith cow.

Liscard: Chs. Lisenecark c.1256, cf.W. llys y carreg (stone manour house).

RC. lis yn carrec. NB. The definite article yn.

Liverpool: Lancs. Liverpul c.1194, Litherpol c.1222, cf. W. llifr pwl 
(conflux pool) and litthr pwl (slip pool). This is a reference to a small 
pool that gave haven to fishing boats in medieval times, and which later 
served as a dock, but which has since been filled in. RC. *lifr pwl,
*lithr 
pwl.

Lothersdale: Yorks. Loderesden c.1202, Lothereston c.1285, also Lauderdale

in Scotland, cf.W. lleidr (bandit), and cf. Corn lader (a thief). RC. *
cwm 
laiddr (bandit valley).

Lyne: Cu. Luene c.1292. RC. *lefeni. See Leven above.

Lyvennet: Wst. River-name Levenyd c.1292, Leveneth c.1292. This river is 
called Llwyfenyd in the Welsh translation of Taliesin's original Cumbric 
poem Urien of Rheged. RC. *lofenydd.

Lizard: Shp. Lusgerde c.664, lisgarde c.1291, cf.W. llys garth (court
farm). 
RC. *lys garth.



                                                                 M



Mabbin Hill: Wst. personal name Mabon.

Macefen: Chs. Masefen c.1260, cf.W. maes y ffin (field at the boundary).
RC. 
*mais y ffin.

Maidencastle: Cu. formerly Carthonock c.1589, Thannock's Castle.

Mallerstang: Wst. Malrestang c.1223, Malvestang c.1228, cf.W. moel fre
(bald 
mountain), and cf. Nor. stongr (staff). RC. *mail fre stang.

Mamhead: Db. Mammeheved c.1242, cf.W. maen (a stone), cf.Manchester, 
Mansfield, Mamesfeld c.1093, Mam Tor, etc. RC. *main. NB. This place name 
includes the Norse word for head.

Manor: Scot., Peebles, Maner c.1323, cf.W. maenor (a district marked by 
stones, or a manor house). RC. *mainor.

Maryport: Cu. formerly Aylnfoote c.1656. The river Ayln was called the 
Alavna in Roman times. Ayln foot means the mouth of the Ayln; this is a 
Celtic turn of phrase. Sir Humphrey Senhouse changed Aylnfoot into
Maryport 
after his wife Mary.

Maughonby: Cu. Merchamby c.1254. A Cumbric-Norse hybrid place-name meaning

Mercion's farm, from Roman personal name Marcianus. NB. The survival of 
Romano-British personal names would suggest the survival of a
Romano-British 
population.

Meckfen: Scot, Perthshire, Mekfen c. 1226, Mecven c.1443, cf.W. mign maen 
(bog stone). RC. *myc fain.

Megget Water: Scot., Selkirkshire, also Meggeth, Cu., cf.W. mignydd (a
bog), 
also

mignoedd (bogs). RC. * mygydd, pl. *mygaidd.

Meigle: Scot., Perthshire, Migdele in The Legend of Saint Michael, cf.W. 
mign dol (bog meadow). RC. *mig dol.

Melkinthorpe: Wst. Melcanetorp c.1150, cf. O.W. personal name Mailcun, 
cf.O.Ir. Maelcian.

Mellor:  Lancs. Melver c.1246, also Mellor Db. Melner c.1330, cf.W. moel
fre 
(bald hill). RC. *mail fre.

Melrose: Scot., cf.W. moel rhos, also Corn. mol ros (bald heath). RC. *
mail 
ros.

Menstrie: Scot. Clackmannen, Mestry c.1315, Menstry c.1392, cf.W. maes y 
tre, also Corn.  mes an tre (village of the open plain). RC. *mais tre,
and 
*mais yn tre. NB. The spellings menstry suggest that the definite article 
became yn before a dental.

Methvan: Scot., Perthshire, Methven c.1211, cf.W. medd faen, also Corn.
meth 
ven (mead stone). RC. *medd fain.

Migvie: Scot., Stratherrich, cf.W. mign fa (a boggy place). RC.* mig fy

Morcambe Bay: Lancs. Cf. W. mor cam (crooked sea). NB. This is an example
of 
a trap for the unwary. Morcambe Bay was suggested by in Whitaker's The 
History of Manchester 1771, as the sight of Ptolemy's Marikambe. There is
a 
Marricambe Bay in Cumberland whose origin is obscure. Pennines is another 
such trap. The original name was Riggings, meaning the Ridges. The name 
Pennines is an adaptation of the Appenines in Italy.

Morphie: Scot., Kincardine, cf.W. mor fa (sea place). RC. * mor fy.



                                                              N



Newton Arlosh: Cu. Arlosk c.1185, cf.W. llosg (fire). RC. *arlosc (land 
cleared by burning) NB. Arlosh contains the intensive prefix ar- (over), 
this indicates that such prefixes were in use in Cumbric.

Niddrie: Scot., Edinburgh, Nudref c.1290, Nodref c.1336, cf.W. newydd dref

(new town), also Corn. noweth dref. RC. * now dref.

Noe: Db. A river-name, Noue c.1300,  cf.W. nofio (to swim). RC. nofio  (to

flow or to

float).

                                                            O



Ochiltree: Scot., Kyle and Galloway, Uchiltre c.1304, Uchiltrie c.1406,
cf. 
W uchel tre (high village), also cf. Corn. ughel tre. RC. *uchel tre.

Ogilvie: Scot., Perthshire, cf.W. uchel fa (high place), also cf. Corn. 
ughel va. RC. *uchel vy.





                                                                P



Panbridge: Scot., Forfarshire, Pannebride c 1261, cf.W. pant Brigid
(Briget's 
valley). RC. * pan y Brigidd. NB. The G is a jod.

Panmure: Scot., Forfarshire, Pannemor c. 1261, cf.W. pant mawr (big
valley), 
also cf. Corn. pans mur. RC. *pan y mowr.

Pant: Scot. (Stair Parish in Ayrshire), cf.W. pant (valley), cf. Corn.
pans. 
RC. *pant.

Pant: Wst. a field-name in Kendell Ward, cf.W. pant. RC. *pant. NB. 
Field-names indicate a late survival of Cumbric.

Pardovan: Scot. Linlithgowshire, Purduuyn c. 1282, Pardovin c. 1542, cf.
W. 
par ddwfn (deep field), also Pardovingishill, Scot. Renfrewshire. RC. *par

ddwfn.

Parton: Scot. Cf.W. perth (a bush). RC. *perth.

Parwich: Db. Peuerwich c.966, cf.W. pefr wyg (bright farm or copse). RC. 
*pefr wic.

Patterdale: Cu. Patrichesdale c. 1148. NB. Patrick's valley.

Peebles: Scot. Cf.W. pabell (a tent or pavillion). RC. *pabel.

Peffer: Scot. Cf.W. pefr (bright). RC. *pefr.

Pencaitland: Scot. Penketland c.1296, cf.W. pen coed llan (end of the
wood), 
cf.Corn. pen cos lan. RC. *pen caidd lan.

Penhurrock: Wst. c.1777. NB. Currock and currick are local words for a
heap 
of stones or a cairn. The currock in question is a stone circle on a 
tumulus, grid 83-629104.

Pen Howe: Wst. a field-name in Kendall ward, a hybrid Cumbric-Norse 
place-name, pen haugr.

Penistone: Scot. Selkirk, cf.W. pen yr ystrum (head of the bend). RC. *pen

ystrum.

Penistone: Yorks. Peningeston c.1199, cf.W. pen yr ystrum.RC. *pen yn 
ystrum.

Pennystone: Scot. Kirkmabrek, cf.W. pen yr ystrum (head of the bend). RC. 
*pen ystrum.

Penicuik: Scot. Edinburgh, cf.W. pen y coed, cf. Corn. pen an cok. RC.
*pen 
y coc. NB. This place-name, together with Blencogo, determines that the 
ultimate C in coc became G in the plural, hence sing. *coc pl. *cogow.

Penketh: Lancs. Penket c. 1242, Penketh c. 1259, cf.W. pen coed (wood end)

cf. Corn. pen cos, cf. Bret. Pen koad. RC. *pen caidd.

Penkridge: Staffs. Pencric c.958, cf.W. pen crug. RC. *pen cruc.

Penmanshiel: Scot. Berwickshire, a hybrid Cumbric and Norse place-name 
containing Norse skali (a shelter), cf.W.pen maen. RC. *pen main

Pennigant: Scot. Roxburgh, cf.W. pen y gaint (end of the plain). RC.*pen y

gaint (end of the plateaux).

Penyghent: Yorks. Penegent c.1307. NB. Alternative pronunciations for the 
diphthong AI.

Pennymure: Scot. Roxburgh, cf. W. pen y mur (end of the wall). RC. *pen y 
mur.

Penersax: Scot. Dumfriesshire, cf.W. pen y sais (hill of the Saxon). RC. 
*pen yr sacs.

Penpont: Scot. Dumfries, cf.W. pen pont (bridge end), cf. Penpons in 
Cornwall. RC. *pen pont.

Penrith: Cu. Penred c. 1167, Penreth c. 1185, Penerith c.1367, cf.W. pen 
rhyd (ford end), cf.Corn. pen res. RC. *pen rydd.

Pensax: Wor. Pensex c 1231 (Saxon hill).

Penty: Scot. Lanarkshire, cf.W. pendy (main house, i.e. manor house). NB.
No 
lenition in penty.

Peover: Chs. Peuere c. 1277, cf.W. pefr (bright). RC. *pefr.

Pilling: Lancs. Pylin c.1246, cf.W. pyll (pool or creek). RC.* pylen 
(diminutive, small pool or creek).

Plenmellior: Nb. Plenmenewre c.1256, Playnmelor c.1279, cf.W. blaen moel
vre 
(summit of bald mountain). RC. *blain mail vre. NB. The initial sharp 
mutation of B into P is unexplained.

Plenploth: Scot., cf.W. blaen y plwyf (parish front or before the parish).

RC. *blain plof

Poltragow: Cu. Poltraghaue c.1485, cf.W. pwll trachau (hills protruding
into 
lowland). RC. *pol trachow.

Polmaise: Scot. Stirlingshire, cf.W. pwll maes (field pool). RC. *pol
mais.

Pontheugh: Scot. Berwickshire, Hugh's Bridge.

Preesall: Lancs. Preshoved, Preshoved c.1190. A Hybridf Cumbric and Norse 
place-name meaning Brushwood Head, cf.W. prys (brushwood, fuel), cf.Corn 
pres (meadow). RC, *prys.

Prenlas: Scot.  Leslie Parish in Fife, cf.W. pren glas (green plank). NB. 
The lenition in Prenlas. RC.* pren las. NB. Lenition.

Priorsdale: Cu. Presdale c.1280, cf.W. prys.



                                                                      R

Raswraget: Cu. a lost place-name in Eskdale Ward, Roswrageth c.1169, cf.W.

rhos wragedd (woman moor). RC. * ros wragedd.

Redmain: Cu. Redeman c.1188, cf.W. Rhyd y Maen (ford of stone) in
Dolgelly. 
RC. *ryd y main.

Roch: Lancs. River-name, Rachet c. 1292, cf.W. rheged (liberality,
largess, 
bounty). Rheged, an ancient Romano-British and Christian kingdom in
England 
during the Dark Ages. RC. * Regedd.

Rochdale: Lancs. Rachedal c.1195, Rachedham c.1193, (valley of the river 
Roch.)

Roose: Yorks. Rossa c. 1135, also Roose in Derbyshire, Rosse c.1156, Roose

in Cheshire, Roose c.1336, also Roos and Rossal in Lancashire, cf.W. rhos 
(moor, heath). RC. *ros.

Ruthven: Scot. Perthshire, cf.W. rhudd faen (red stone), cf.Corn. ruth
ven. 
RC. rudd fain.



                                                                  S

Seisdon: Staffs. Saiesdona c. 1130, Seisdon c.1243, Saxon's Down, cf.W,
sais 
(Saxon), cf. Corn. saws (saxon). NB. Compare with Penersax and Glensax.
RC. 
*sais.

Sherbourn-in-Elmet: Yorks. Silva Elmete c.730, Elmed saeta (Bede), Elmet
c. 
800, Elmete c.1212, Elmeticos found on a tombestone in Carnarvan, cf.W. 
Elvyd.



                                                                  T

Talkin Fell: Cu. Talkenfell c.1589, cf. W.& Corn., tal (brow) and can 
(white), Bret. Tal kan. RC. *tal can,

Tallentire: Cu. Tanentire c.1160, cf.W. tal y tir (end of the land), Corn.

tal an tyr. RC. *tal yn tir, NB. The definite article before dental.

Tarnmonath Fell: Cu. This is a hybrid Cumbric and Norse place-name, cf. W.

mynydd, (mountain) cf.Corn meneth. Tarn from tjorn. RC. *monydd.  NB. This

place-name preserves the Cumbric word *monydd as monath. The vowels O and
U 
before nasal plus stop did not in Cumbric, unlike the rest of the P-Celtic

languages, experience sound change. This in itself is sufficient to 
establish Cumbric as a separate language in itself, and not just a dialect

of Welsh. Note also the ability of Cumbric to adopt load words such a
tjorn.

Tarn Wadling: Cu. Ternewathelan c. 1338, cf.W. Gwyddelan as in the 
place-name Dol Wyddelan in Carnarvanshire. The word Gwyddel can mean
either 
a pre-Celtic inhabitant or an Irishman. RC. *gwyddelan. In local legend
the 
tarn or lake, which was filled in some time ago, was the lake from which 
Arthur's sword came. RC. *tarn wyddelan.

Tarvin: Chs. Tervin c.1209, cf.W. terfyn (boundary), from Lat. terminus.

Teman: Cu. Tenman c.1346, Temayne c.1568, cf.W. tan maen (fire stone), 
cf.Corn. ten men. RC. * tan main. NB. Teanen bonfires were lit at May Eve 
and Halloween in the Pennines and elsewhere, and cattle were passed
through 
two bonfires to cure murrain, tean is a dialect word for a bonfire.

Tercrosset: Cu. Torcrossoc c.1193, cf.W. croesog (abounding in crosses),
cf. 
Corn. crowsek. RC. *tor crosoc. NB. The origin of the Cumbric word *tor, 
which abounds expecially in Derbyshire and Cumbrian 12th century 
place-names, is enigmatic. Place-name experts are of the opinion that 12th

century Cornish tin miners were brought into Derbyshire to mine lead and 
bluestone, and into Cumbria to mine graphite for pencils, and they brought

the word tor, which is said to mean a tower, with them by naming cliffs
and 
rocky prominences that look like towers tors, such as Mam Tor in
Derbyshire. 
There is a Welsh word tor, which means a bulge, and it appears in Welsh 
place-names such as Tor y Mynydd, but place-name experts discount any
Welsh 
influence in favour of the theory wandering twelfth century Cornish tin 
miners, for example it would be foolish to consider a Cumbric origin for
Mam 
Tor such as *Main Tor y Monydd because Mam Tor is undoubtedly shaped like 
the tower of a Cornish tin mine.

Terregles: Scot. Galloway, formerly Traveregles, cf. Corn. place-name 
Treveglos (church town or a village containing the parish church). RC.
*tref 
yr egles.

Torpenhow: Cu. Torpennoc c.1163, cf. W. penog (abounding in peaks). RC. 
*torpenoc. NB. It is possible that the wandering Cornish tin miners, so 
beloved by place-name experts, first wandered through Wales, then 
Derbyshire, and finally to Cumberland, picking up a smattering of Welsh on

the way, such as the Welsh word penog, hence a Cornish and Welsh hybrid 
place name *tor penog.

Trabroun: Scot., in Lauderdale, Treuerbrun c.1170, cf.W. tref y bryn 
(village on the hill), also Trabroun in Haddington, Scotland. RC. *tref yr

bryn. NB.Definite article.

Trenant: Scot. Edinburgh, formerly Trevernent, cf.W. tref y neintydd (town

of the steep sided valley). RC. * tref yr neint. NB. Note the definite 
article and the Cumbric plural of the word nant.

Traprain: Scot. Haddington, Trepren c.1335, cf.W. trefbren (plank
village). 
It if possible that this settlement was composed of scalis, which consists

of planks covered in turves and fashioned in a circular pattern, the ends
of 
the planks being fixed by a circle of stones, the original for Hobbit Hole

..RC. *tre pren NB. No lenition.

Treales: Chs. cf. W. tref y llys (village containing the court, which is
to 
say the court of the local dengi or ruler and tax collector).

Trevercraig: Scot. Carrick, cf.W. tref y craig (village of stone), also 
Trevercrageis: Ayrshire in Scotland. RC. * tref yr craic.

Triermain: Cu. Treverman c.1169, cf.W. tref y maen (village of stone). RC.

*tref yr main.

Troloss: Scot. Lanarkshire, cf.W. tre llwst (village tail), cf. Corn. tre 
lost. RC. * tre lwst.

Trusty's Hill: Scot. This place-name refers to Tristan who was a local 
chief, viz. the legend of Tristan and Isolde.

Tulketh: Lancs. cf.W. twll coed (cave or pit wood). RC. *twl caidd.



                                                                W



Warren Burn: Nb. Warnet c.1157, cf.W. gwernydd (alder trees, or a bog or 
marsh). RC.*gwarnydd. NB. E before R plus stop becomes A.

Watermellock: Cu. Wethermelok c.1253, cf.W. gwydr moelog (green or blue 
baldness, i.e. a heath). RC. *gwydr mailoc.

Werneth Low: Chs. Wernyth c.1352, cf,W, gwernydd (alder trees). 
RC.*gwernydd.

Wharf: Yorks. A river-name, Verbeia, meaning a winding river, Weorf c.963,

Werf c.1112, Warf c. 1155, Hwef c.1155. RC. *gwerf & *gwarf. NB. The
pesent 
name is from the Norse word hvarf, which means a bend. Note also how E 
before R became A in the second spelling. This sound change is a feature
of 
Cumbric.

Winister: Wst. Winster c.1170, cf.Gwensteri (white stream) in a verse by 
Taliesin. RC. *gwyn ysteri.

Winwick: Lancs. Winequic c.1170, Wynewich c.1212, cf.W. gwyn wyg (white 
village), cf.Corn. gwyn wyk. RC. gwyn wyc.



                                                                 Y

Yeavering: Nb. Adgefrin (Bede), Yever c.1242, Yevre c.1329, also Yeavering

Bell, a nearby hill, cf. W geifr ryn (goat's hill), cf.Corn. gever bryn.
RC. 
*geifr ryn. NB. G pronounced as a jod, as in Welsh.

Yanwath: near Penrith, cf.W. un (one, only, single). RC. *un wadd. (only 
ford). NB. Gwadd is a loan word from Norse vadr meaning a ford.




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