Bob and Doris Jones wrote:
> Bob and Doris Jones wrote:
>
>> hawker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>
>>> Y Gwrthtroedfedd
>>>
>>> Deheuol Tir Anadnabyddus - Australis Terra Incognito
>>>
>> Diolch ("thank you" yn Cymraeg).
>>
>> Meur rasta ("thank you" yn Kernewek).
>>
>> Trugarez ("thank you - merci" e Brezhoneg).
>>
>> Tapadh leat ("thank you" ann Gaidhlig).
>>
>> Go raibh maith agat ("thank you" sa Gaeilge).
>>
>> Gura mie ayd ("thank you" ayns yn Ghaelg).
>>
>> Yn ***bric, Hawker ?
>>
>> "***bric was the Brythonic Celtic language centred in ***bria, and
>> spoken from lowland Scotland south to Derby****re. ***bric was once
>> referred to as North Welsh and Cornish as South Welsh. ... The old
>> northern British kingdoms of Rheged and Gododdin spoke Old Welsh, but
>> given time, many linguists consider that this tongue was
>> distinguishable from Old Welsh at the time of its demise [as a
>> community language]. [NOTE: They said this of Kernewek and Gaelg too
>> but research has shown that the revival of these languages had started
>> before the last native speakers had died - in ***bric's case ?] "In
>> the 19th and 20th [and 21st ?] centuries sheep counts and children's
>> counting rhymes which [are ?] ***bric have been collected throughout
>> northern England: eg Yan, Tan, Tethera, Methera, Pim compared to Old
>> Welsh "Un, Dou, Tri, Petwar, Pimp".
>>
>>
> Further on this:
>
> "Much of the origin and character of the ***bric language remain a
> mystery. Apart from several insignificant Latin observational texts and
> place names, the language is today undo***ented [not anymore - Hawker
> has done it]. What is known is that the language was Brythonic Insular
> Celtic, most likely descended from Old North Welsh, related to the
> presumed Brythonic Pictish language, and progressively more distantly,
> to Cornish. Due to its location, words of Gaelic and Scandinavian origin
> may have enriched the language.
> [edit]
> Reconstructions
>
>
> Reconstructed cognates in the language only number around 50, and the
> Celtic Culture of Northwest England has long since been forgotten [not
> completely it seems]. Despite this, several forms of "Revived" ***bric
> are in their infancies. One is noted to be very similar to Old Welsh,
> while the other re-creates a hypothetical, distinct language
> representing what the language may have been like today had it never
> died out. The internet will no doubt provide a valuable resource for the
> "revival" of these languages."
>
> Source with my modifications as shown [thus]:
>
> http://psychcentral.com/psypsych/***bric
"..The Brythonic languages are Welsh, Cornish, ***bric and Breton. .."
http://www.mezzofanti.org/welsh.html


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