allan connochie wrote:
> "Bob and Doris Jones" <bobianjones@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>hawker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>... I am publi****ng it as I go along so there will be a need for
>>>constant updates.
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> IMHO the huge percentage of red-haired people
>
>>in Brigantia is a direct genetic legacy of the Picts (the highest
>>percentage of anywhere in the world).
>
>
> Fairytale stuff.
Not at all. You have mixed events separated by centuries as if they
occurred at the same time in your post - that is the stuff of fairy tales.
> The various Pictish kingdoms were north of the
> Forth/Antonine/Clyde line.
Originally, but according to folk tradition in Galloway the last Pictish
speaker died in SW Galloway and the distingui****ng Pictish
characteristic was a high predominance of red hair. The fairy folk of
Gaelic legend and folk tales also traditionally have red hair with small
stature. It is generally agreed that diminuatives are used for the
earlier inhabitants of area.
> The land of the Brigantes was way to the south
> in northern England.
They may have straddled what is now the border with Scotland.
Cantimandua was after all an ally to the Romans.
> Seperating them were the Brittonic tribes of the
> Southern Uplands and central Scotland, some of whom 'may' have been more
> closely connected to the Brigantes in pre-Roman tribes.
The Meaetae of the Scottish lowlands were thought to have been largely
exterminated by the Roman military. There was a "vacuum" left population
wise.
> The later northern British kingdoms, especially in the west, certainly
traversed what is now
> the Scottish/English border, but these kingdoms were Brittonic units and
had
> nothing to do with any Pictish expansion.
The Picts were also Brittonic (with Gaelic influence from
intermarriage), but a northern expansion of Cymraeg into Southern
Scotland also occurred.
> No such southerly expansion
> happened perhaps apart from in the Firth of Forth area.
Study the progressive building of brochs further and further south from
northern Scotland (Hebrides,Orkeys and Caithness - Pictich state of Cat)
until the really big later ones were built as far south as Edinburgh.
They were "fronting" the Romans until their chance came as Rome became
weakened.
> The attacks during
> the Barbarian Conspiracy by Scots and Picts in the area in question were
> just massive raids and not conquests of territory.
Vortigern supposedly brought in the first Saxon and Jute mercenary
leaders (who at the same time oversaw the forced uprooting of the
Angles-Frisians from their homeland to Middle England) to rid the land
of the Picts who had overrun two-thirds of what is now England. This was
only successful in Middle England. In the North of England the Angles
only came as military overlords. The Picts were a redoubtable people and
would have given stiff resistance. They had military discipline, had
effective battle formations and used SunTzu-like tactics.
> There was probably
> little, if any, significant genetic difference between the Brigantes and
> Pictish peoples.
Probably true to a large extent, except the pheomelanin of red-hair (and
in the skin) is photo-sensitive not photo-protective. Red-heads really
are "born out of the northern darkness" to quote Gaelic mythology. Only
the dark wet cloudiness of the Pictish state of Cat fits the bill for
our evolution from our mixed Danubian and Basque ancestors (a triple
mutation on the MC1R gene is needed for bright red hair). Also, wouldn't
you think that the Brigantes as allies of Rome might have met the same
fate as the Meaetae when the tide had turned the other way ?
> The Picts only emerged from the northern British tribes
> who remained outwith the Roman Empire. If however you are right and red
> haired people in the land of the Brigantes are descended from people who
> lived in, what is now parts of Scotland, then it's much more likely that
> they are a product of folk movement during the Industrial Revolution and
> after.
It is more likely that most of the red-heads are the result of several
pulses of migration from such a wet cloudy dark homeland with the older
pules being the most significant. The first was probably the
Neolithic-Megalithic Ronaldsay cultural pulse which spread red-heads far
and wide along the Atlantic fringe, to Scandinavia and even parts of the
Mediterranean. This was a fair-dinkum ancient civilisation with a
well-developed religion that spread from such an Atlantic fringe. The
red-haired component probably originated in Cat as the Ronaldsay phase
of this civilisation spread by the sea lanes. If you don't believe me go
to Carnac museum, the islands of north-west and north Alba and Bru na
Boinne for starters - I did and you get a lot of insights when you see
it all in one go. Probably the next pulse was the Pictish one - evidence
from palynology (pollen study) shows that Pictish terraced fields were
climbing close to the tarns. Evidence of massive overpopulation. The
climate was getting colder at the time and they were forced to move
south. The Industrial Revolution movements you spoke of would hardy have
been able to produce such a result - especially as the cities are
melting pots of many different peoples. How on earth could such a high
percentage of red hair have resulted then ?
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> Allan
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Slan leibh.
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