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Re: More ***bric Grammar

by Bob and Doris Jones <bobianjones@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 20, 2005 at 12:11 PM

hawker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> "allan connochie" <allan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:432be3a2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>>"Bob and Doris Jones" <bobianjones@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>news:s3LWe.49548$FA3.41768@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>>hawker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>... I am publi****ng it as I go along so there will be a need for
>>>>constant updates.
>>
>>IMHO the huge percentage of red-haired people
>>
>>>in Brigantia is a direct genetic legacy of the Picts (the highest
>>>percentage of anywhere in the world).
> 
> 
> 
> Allan, whoever published this article was greatly mistaken. In fact
there is 
> an undeniable Gwyddelic contribution to the gene pool in Brigantia.
Gwyddel 
> not in the sense of Irish, but in the sense of the pre-Beaker people 
> population of Neolythic farmers. The Gwyddels were almost as old as the 
> Picts and the Iberians, but they were neither Picts nor Iberians.The so 
> called "red haired" people is an old "red herring" that goes back to the

> 18th. century antiquarians.It is just rubbish.There is no evidence of a 
> Pictish population outside Scotland.

Were the Gwyddel reputed to be predominantly red-haired like the 
Caledonians (Picts) ? If this is so, ther may be a tie-up here.

> 
>>Fairytale stuff.  The various Pictish kingdoms were north of the
>>Forth/Antonine/Clyde line.  The land of the Brigantes was way to the
south
>>in northern England.  Seperating them were the Brittonic tribes of the
>>Southern Uplands and central Scotland, some of whom 'may' have been more
>>closely connected to the Brigantes in pre-Roman tribes. The later
northern
>>British kingdoms, especially in the west, certainly traversed what is
now
>>the Scottish/English border, but these kingdoms were Brittonic units and

>>had
>>nothing to do with any Pictish expansion.  No such southerly expansion
>>happened perhaps apart from in the Firth of Forth area.  The attacks 
>>during
>>the Barbarian Conspiracy by Scots and Picts in the area in question were
>>just massive raids and not conquests of territory. There was probably
>>little, if any, significant genetic difference between the Brigantes and
>>Pictish peoples.  The Picts only emerged from the northern British
tribes
>>who remained outwith the Roman Empire. If however you are right and red
>>haired people in the land of the Brigantes are descended from people who
>>lived in, what is now parts of Scotland, then it's much more likely that
>>they are a product of folk movement during the Industrial Revolution and
>>after.
>>
>>
>>Allan
>>
>>
> 
> 
>
 




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"Hawker" <ha  2006-05-18 16:36:00 
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