Bob and Doris Jones wrote:
> hawker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "allan connochie" <allan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> "Bob and Doris Jones" <bobianjones@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>> hawker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>
>>>>> ... I am publi****ng it as I go along so there will be a need for
>>>>> constant updates.
>>>
>>>
>>> IMHO the huge percentage of red-haired people
>>>
>>>> in Brigantia is a direct genetic legacy of the Picts (the highest
>>>> percentage of anywhere in the world).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Allan, whoever published this article was greatly mistaken. In fact
>> there is an undeniable Gwyddelic contribution to the gene pool in
>> Brigantia. Gwyddel not in the sense of Irish, but in the sense of the
>> pre-Beaker people population of Neolythic farmers. The Gwyddels were
>> almost as old as the Picts and the Iberians, but they were neither
>> Picts nor Iberians.The so called "red haired" people is an old "red
>> herring" that goes back to the 18th. century antiquarians.It is just
>> rubbish.There is no evidence of a Pictish population outside Scotland.
>
>
> Were the Gwyddel reputed to be predominantly red-haired like the
> Caledonians (Picts) ? If this is so, ther may be a tie-up here.
Gwyddel refers to Gaelic settlers in Cymru.
>
>>
>>> Fairytale stuff. The various Pictish kingdoms were north of the
>>> Forth/Antonine/Clyde line. The land of the Brigantes was way to the
>>> south
>>> in northern England. Seperating them were the Brittonic tribes of the
>>> Southern Uplands and central Scotland, some of whom 'may' have been
more
>>> closely connected to the Brigantes in pre-Roman tribes. The later
>>> northern
>>> British kingdoms, especially in the west, certainly traversed what is
>>> now
>>> the Scottish/English border, but these kingdoms were Brittonic units
>>> and had
>>> nothing to do with any Pictish expansion. No such southerly expansion
>>> happened perhaps apart from in the Firth of Forth area. The attacks
>>> during
>>> the Barbarian Conspiracy by Scots and Picts in the area in question
were
>>> just massive raids and not conquests of territory. There was probably
>>> little, if any, significant genetic difference between the Brigantes
and
>>> Pictish peoples. The Picts only emerged from the northern British
>>> tribes
>>> who remained outwith the Roman Empire. If however you are right and
red
>>> haired people in the land of the Brigantes are descended from people
who
>>> lived in, what is now parts of Scotland, then it's much more likely
that
>>> they are a product of folk movement during the Industrial Revolution
and
>>> after.
>>>
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>>
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