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Re: History of the Breton Language

by "allan connochie" <allan@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Oct 23, 2005 at 07:52 AM

"John" <guinnog@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:t%y6f.166583$RW.121698@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Adam Whyte-Settlar wrote:
> > "Michilín" <micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:4358fce8.4716862@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >>Posters can use Gaelic and Scots according to the group charter -
> >>English is available for those who would prefer to be English, usually
> >>referred to as Britclones in this group. People like you.
> >
> >
> > And me apparently.
> >
> > A W-S
>
> And me. Gaelic is less spoken in Scotland than some Asian languages.
> Worldwide, less than Esperanto.

There are various points here but, apart from the nuumbers not really
mattering anyway, the actual numbers you have stated don't match up. 
Where
did you get your stats from?  I suggest that you are grossly
over-estimating
the size of the ethnic immigrant population in Scotland, and also
forgetting
that it is not a single homogenous group anyway. It's been estimated that
the most significant linguistic group is the Pakistani one of which there
are around 21,000 speakers and these figures include both Punjabi and Urdu
combined.  I can't remember the exact figures of hand but the numbers of
fluent Gaelic speakers is around 50,000 with something like 90,000 having
some knowledge of the language, whilst the government estimates there are
around 1.5 million people who speak Scots to some extent, and I'd imagine
that just about everyone would be able to understand Scots up to a point.
So
the most common minority languages in Scotland are in fact the recognised
homegrown minority languages Scots and Gaelic and not any particular Asian
language.

It's not the point though is it?  I would defend your right not to have to
speak Scots or Gaelic all the way but of course no-one is suggesting that
you should anyway, and I certainly wouldn't agree that anyone not speaking
Scots or Gaelic is a Britclone so can understand your reply to the post
above. However the post from the Real McCoy stated that 'we speak English
here' so one has to ask the questions..........who are we, where is here,
and why do some people seem threatened when a language other than English
is
either used or discussed?

Allan
 




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History of the Breton Language
micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-21 01:00:51 
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"Real_McCoy" &l  2005-10-21 16:35:30 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-21 13:29:45 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-21 14:36:13 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 11:36:25 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-21 14:43:35 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-10-22 20:49:51 
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John <guinnog@[EMAIL P  2005-10-22 22:25:29 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 23:07:04 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-23 01:20:41 
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John <guinnog@[EMAIL P  2005-10-23 09:37:08 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-23 15:58:39 
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John <guinnog@[EMAIL P  2005-10-23 16:22:24 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-24 01:59:54 
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"Hawker" <ha  2005-11-01 23:37:20 
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"allan connochie&quo  2005-10-23 07:52:15 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 01:14:27 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 11:25:07 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-10-22 00:57:38 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-21 13:42:44 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 01:13:32 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 22:39:22 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-10-22 20:39:29 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-21 15:24:36 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-10-22 20:44:14 
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"Hawker" <fl  2005-10-22 21:44:59 
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"Madra Dubh" &l  2005-10-23 02:21:34 
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Telmey® <telmey®@[EMAI  2005-10-23 02:32:01 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-23 01:26:42 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-10-23 18:34:26 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-23 13:25:55 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-23 16:16:54 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-23 16:09:38 
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"Real_McCoy" &l  2005-10-22 13:31:53 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 01:19:45 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-10-22 20:45:59 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 10:42:38 
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"Madra Dubh" &l  2005-10-22 13:23:36 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 06:42:46 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-10-22 21:03:39 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 11:12:42 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-10-23 18:28:26 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 22:36:22 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-10-23 18:32:32 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-11-02 00:19:04 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-11-01 16:30:12 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-11-02 16:38:44 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-11-03 15:15:55 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-11-03 05:57:41 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-11-03 05:55:16 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-10-22 20:35:23 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 11:19:13 
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar&  2005-10-23 21:26:23 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-23 13:38:59 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-31 11:06:18 
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"Hawker" <fl  2005-10-22 21:42:15 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-24 12:19:24 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-21 15:07:20 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-21 15:17:21 
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John <guinnog@[EMAIL P  2005-10-22 22:32:08 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-22 22:47:49 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-23 01:31:18 
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John <guinnog@[EMAIL P  2005-10-23 09:30:53 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-23 12:44:23 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-23 17:02:03 
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John <guinnog@[EMAIL P  2005-10-23 17:16:09 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-24 02:09:16 
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"Hawker" <ha  2005-11-01 23:41:15 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-11-02 16:41:33 
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"The Real Fifeshire   2005-11-03 15:20:19 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-11-03 23:41:14 
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"Madra Dubh" &l  2005-10-23 17:11:59 
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"Madra Dubh" &l  2005-10-24 03:03:02 
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Telmey® <telmey®@[EMAI  2005-10-22 23:33:46 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-23 01:30:21 
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John <guinnog@[EMAIL P  2005-10-23 09:32:11 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-24 13:16:29 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-25 03:48:14 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-25 11:19:53 
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Féachadóir <Féach@[EMA  2005-10-25 12:28:40 
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"Angof" <ang  2005-10-26 00:02:26 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-26 22:24:47 
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"Angof" <ang  2005-10-27 00:02:40 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-27 10:33:43 
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John Maclean <guinnog@  2005-10-27 17:49:37 
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"Angof" <ang  2005-10-29 11:28:07 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-29 14:29:20 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-29 22:13:16 
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John Maclean <guinnog@  2005-10-30 00:11:59 
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michael lightfoot <mic  2005-10-30 22:01:30 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-30 11:59:14 
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"Angof" <ang  2005-10-30 16:40:39 
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"allan connochie&quo  2005-10-30 07:36:02 
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John Maclean <guinnog@  2005-10-31 07:33:17 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-31 11:57:10 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-29 13:37:56 
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"Angof" <ang  2005-10-29 15:12:36 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-30 03:44:39 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-30 11:33:30 
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"Angof" <ang  2005-10-30 16:19:13 
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"The Real Fifeshire   2005-10-30 13:14:28 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-31 10:55:45 
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"The Real Fifeshire   2005-10-31 13:53:30 
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Eugene V Debs <guinnog  2005-10-31 19:27:26 
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"allan connochie&quo  2005-10-31 20:42:44 
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Eugene V Debs <guinnog  2005-10-31 20:58:20 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-11-01 01:30:17 
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Eugene V Debs <guinnog  2005-11-01 07:32:04 
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Eugene V Debs <guinnog  2005-11-01 07:44:38 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-11-01 16:42:55 
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Eugene V Debs <guinnog  2005-11-01 20:46:29 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-11-02 16:47:12 
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Eugene V Debs <guinnog  2005-11-02 19:41:06 
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"Angof" <ang  2005-11-02 20:27:44 
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Jock the Goalie <jockt  2005-11-03 01:24:47 
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"The Real Fifeshire   2005-11-03 12:43:45 
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Jock the Goalie <jockt  2005-11-04 14:53:12 
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"The Real Fifeshire   2005-11-04 10:53:28 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-11-01 10:26:39 
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"The Real Fifeshire   2005-11-01 06:07:10 
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Lachie <noos@[EMAIL PR  2005-10-26 18:52:12 
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micheil@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-10-26 20:35:06 
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Bob and Doris Jones <b  2005-10-26 22:11:11 
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"allan connochie&quo  2005-10-27 00:37:12 

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