Revived" Cumbric language
Valerie, Keswick, Cumbria, UK Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 00:56 GMT
Has anyone out there any leads on thid topic?
Adam Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 08:44 GMT
I don't think it can be revived because I think no-one knows what
the
Cumbric language sounded like or what it looked like when it was written
down.
However, the Cumbric language is proof that counties are part of
England even though a Celtic language was spoken there, such as Cornwall.
Cumbric was spoken all the was from Cumbria down to Derbyshire and covered
counties such as Lancashire and Cheshire. So saying that "Cornish used to
be
spoken in Cornwall therefore Cornwall isn't a part of England" is useless
because Celtic languages were once spoken all over what is now England.
Cumbria was once as "Celtic" as Cornwall.
Travis Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 08:48 GMT
I myself have to agree with Adam on this one. Unlike Cornish, which
we
have written records of, we just do not know enough about Cumbric for the
revival of it to be possible.
Valerie toTravis and Adam Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 11:47 GMT
Hi Boyz! I forgot to say that, in fact there are reverations of
Cumbric in their infancy! We'll just have to see what happens, won't we?
Ciao!
Enid Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 11:49 GMT
Adam! England was a Celtic land once! Don't you know your own
history
for heaven's sake?
The Borg Queen Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 11:54 GMT
A nationwide DNA test was carried out to determine the genes of
those
taking part and to determine DNA distribution throughout the UK a few
years
ago in England. The results confirmed that most of the indigenous
populatiion of the UK were indeed of Celtic roots. Anglo-Saxon came second
in England! So Adam, you're most probably a Celt by DNA? Why do you deny
your Celtic biological makeup?
Adam Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 17:24 GMT
"Adam! England was a Celtic land once! Don't you know your own
history
for heaven's sake"
I know it was.
That's why it's absolutely pointless saying that Cornwall is not a
part of England because they spoke a Celtic language there until recently,
because they use to speak Celtic languages ALL OVER whatis now England, so
Cornwall is no different.
Cornwall - Cornish language.
Cumbria - Cumbric language.
Adam Tuesday, June 07, 2005, 17:25 GMT
"So Adam, you're most probably a Celt by DNA? Why do you deny your
Celtic biological makeup"
I don't. I have English, Scottish and even Manx ancestry. My
ancestors
moved from the Isle of Man to England in the early 20th Century.
Travis Wednesday, June 08, 2005, 01:22 GMT
lancashire-cumbric
Mathijs Thursday, June 09, 2005, 19:45 GMT
<I don't. I have English, Scottish and even Manx ancestry. My
ancestors moved from the Isle of Man to England in the early 20th
Century.>
Well , isn't Scottish and Manx celtic ?
Sander Thursday, June 09, 2005, 19:48 GMT
The Scots are Germanic..
Sander Thursday, June 09, 2005, 19:49 GMT
I think....
Travis Thursday, June 09, 2005, 20:05 GMT
Well, the Scots are sort of a mixture of various Germanic (Angles,
Saxons, you name it), Celtic (both Gaelic and Brythonic), and autochtonous
peoples (the Picts). That aside, linguistically, the Lowlands of Scotland
have been primarily West Germanic-speaking (that is, Scots speaking, and
more recently, Scottish English speaking to a large extent), whereas
historically the Highlands and insular areas *except* the Shetland and
Orkney islands have been Gaelic-speaking. Historically, the Shetland
Orkney
islands were North Germanic-speaking (speaking Old Norse, which then
locally
became the Norn language), but they have been West Germanic-speaking
(specifically Scots-speaking) since the Norn language died off after they
left Norway's control and entered Scotland's control.
Ken to Travis Friday, June 10, 2005, 10:15 GMT
"Celtic (both Gaelic and Brythonic), and.....
The above refers only to the language and not the people! That would
be Gaels and British not Gaelic and Brythonic!
Kevin O'Leary Friday, June 10, 2005, 20:39 GMT
I know someone who has got a very old copy of this language, a big
book about 1 inch thick, packed of Cumbric and words and phrases.
Unfortunatly, it isn't complete, as lot of it is missing, should we report
it???
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