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Re: Kernewek pronouns ?

by "Angof" <angof@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (removeme)bigfoot.com> Aug 6, 2006 at 12:40 PM

"Ciaran" <ciaran@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> It's quite a long reply but I hope its helpful. Any more questions
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> Very helpful, Angof.
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> Meur ras !!!
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> Interesting what I found for other Celtic languages:
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> Language,I,thou,he,she,we,yous,they
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> Cymraeg:  fi/i, ti,  ef, hi, ni,   chwi,  hwy
> Kernewek:   my, ty,  ev, hi, ni,   hwi,   i   (from you - thanks)
> Brezhoneg:  me, ti,  en, hi, ni,   c'hwi, i
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> Gaidhlig:   mi, thu, e,   i, sinn, sibh,  iad
> Gaelg:     mee, oo,  eh, ee, ****n, ****u,   ad
> Gaeilge:    me, tu,  se, si, sinn, sibh, siad
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> NOTES:
> 1. When pronounced the similarities are even more striking meaning that 
> you may have a a massive head start learning other spoken Celtic
languages 
> after learning one Celtic language.
> 2. Kernewek would seem to be EXTREMELY close to Brezhoneg despite the
sea 
> separating them.
> 3. Brythonic Celtic languages are all VERY close 
> (Cymraeg,Kernewek,Brezhoneg) it would seem.
> 4. Goidelic Celtic languages are all VERY close (Gaidhlig,Gaelg,Gaeilge)

> it would seem too.
> 5. Maybe learning one Brythonic and one Goidelic language gives you the 
> best head start to the others.
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> I am going to extend this investigation - wish I had some Galician and 
> Asturian for comparison to see how much Celtic influence is in those 
> languages too.
>
> Ciaran


I dont know how to speak any of the other celtic languages, so can only 
speak about Cornish.

In pronouncing those words in cornish the y is hard, so my is not like the

english 'my', it is like the mi in 'mick'

same with ty it is not like the english 'tie' but like the ti in the
english 
word 'tick'

the i makes an ee sound so ni sounds like 'nee', hwi sounds like hwee 
(ensuring you "breathe" the h, as it is not silent)


As i understand it, it is a fairly widely held belief that Kernewek is 
closest to Breton, moreso than Welsh, which is interesting without doubt.

There are common words throughout all of the brythonic languages which is 
unsurprising considering thier origins.

Thanks for the info, really interesting.


Angof
 




 10 Posts in Topic:
Kernewek pronouns ?
Ciaran <ciaran@[EMAIL   2006-07-27 12:26:20 
Re: Kernewek pronouns ?
"Angof" <ang  2006-07-27 17:46:09 
Re: Kernewek pronouns ?
Ciaran <ciaran@[EMAIL   2006-08-06 07:16:20 
Re: Kernewek pronouns ?
Ciaran <ciaran@[EMAIL   2006-08-06 08:03:42 
Re: Kernewek pronouns ?
"Angof" <ang  2006-08-06 12:40:36 
Re: Kernewek pronouns ?
Ciaran <ciaran@[EMAIL   2006-08-26 12:24:01 
Re: Kernewek pronouns ?
Ciaran <ciaran@[EMAIL   2006-08-26 12:28:41 
Re: Kernewek pronouns ?
Ciaran <ciaran@[EMAIL   2006-08-06 08:03:42 
Re: Kernewek pronouns ?
"Angof" <ang  2006-08-06 12:40:36 
Re: Kernewek pronouns ?
Ciaran <ciaran@[EMAIL   2006-08-06 07:16:20 

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