I am MI5 and I am still watching YOU!
We have a list of secret agents, we are all watching you
BitterAnklo = Japan agent in Osaka
lt Lee - CCP PLA type from China and North Carolina
BaldEagle - Hawaii office to Singa****e
Supertech= Korea to Texas field office
Abian Chen= Taiwan to NY
L. Alpert = Jewish plant/ in CT.
Susan Cohen our head UK MI5 office head.
YES we are all watching YOU!
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> wrote in message news:ax0711260910355839@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Four Years of "MI5 Persecution" Posts on. Internet Newsgroups
>
> For approximately the first three years. of the MI5 persecution, from
June
> 1990 until late 1992, I kept as quiet as possible,. in the hope that by
> not
> reacting, MI5s. interest in me would decrease and they would simply go
> away
> of their own accord. This is the. sort of behaviour some people employ
> against bullies; if the bullies arent. getting a reaction, then they
might
> simply. go away and victimize someone else.
>
> Unfortunately, this. tactic didnt work. The quieter I became, the more
> shrill and hysterical the noise from the Security Service. operatives.
For
> about two years. I didnt watch TV news at all. Yet this only heightened
> their obsessed fixation;. they continued to follow me wherever I went,
> they
> continued. to induce harassment at work by managers and fellow workers,
> and
> they continued to encourage me to commit suicide. They seemed to. regard
> my
> refusal to react as a crime which they. would have to "put right" by
ever
> more. extreme forms of abuse.
>
> Finally, in 1995, I changed tactics radically. Since late 1994. I had
had
> accounts with. internet providers in Ontario, Canada. I discovered the
> cornucopia of internet newsgroups, on every topic from. consumer
> electronics,. to politics and legal topics, and I discovered online
> services such as. Compuserve and AOL. In May 1995, I made the first
> posting
> to. the conspiracy newsgroup, on the subject of "BBCs Hidden Shame".
>
> BBC's Hidden. Shame
>
> The internet newsgroup discussion, which has now. reached its fourth
> anniversary, started with an article in. alt.conspiracy, which I
reproduce
> here.
>
> Date: Thu May 4. 18:27:24 1995
> Newsgroups:. alt.conspiracy
> Subject: BBC's Hidden. Shame
>
> Remember the. two-way televisions in George Orwell's 1984? The ones
which
> watched you
> back? Which you could never. get rid of, only the sound could be turned
> down?
>
> Well the country which brought Orwell into the. world has made his
> nightmare follow into
> the world after him. Since 1990. the British have been waging war
against
> one of their
> own citizens using surveillance to invade privacy. and a campaign of
abuse
> in the
> transmitted media in their efforts to humiliate. their "victim".
>
> And the most remarkable thing about. it is that what they do is not even
> illegal - the
> UK has no laws to protect the privacy of its citizens, nor does it
> proscribe. harassment
> or abuse except in the case. of racial abuse.
>
> A lot of people in England. know this to be going on, yet so far they
have
> maintained
> perfect "omerta"; not a sound, not a squeak has. escaped into the
English
> press, and for
> all the covert harassment absolutely nothing has come out. into the
public
> domain.
>
> Have the British gone mad? I think we should be. told
>
> At this point, I did not name MI5 as my persecutors. I was. still unsure
> that they. were the ones responsible for the "psychological terrorism".
In
> followup posts however I did name them; and the. persecutors have never
> denied the. claim; so I think my guess is valid. (The Security Service
> Tribunal in 1997 have said "no determination in your favour was. made",
> but
> it is a well established fact that MI5. lies routinely to the Tribunal
> which has never found in favour of. a plaintiff, so no conclusions can
be
> drawn from. this.)
>
> This first post was made to alt.conspiracy, but further posts were. made
> to
> the UK-local newsgroups, in particular uk.misc but also uk.legal. and
> uk.politics (which is now called uk.politics.misc). Some time ago. I
tried
> to take the battle to the Compuserve forums, UKPOLITICS. (which is now
> called UKCURRENT -. current affairs), but my articles were censored by
the
> forum operators. Such censor****p is impossible on the. internet
> newsgroups.
>
> Police. Refuse to Act
>
> I have complained several. times to the Metropolitan Police, who have
each
> time. refused to help.
>
> From: Green. <Green@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Newsgroups:.
uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british
> Subject: Re: MI5 Persecution: Why Aren't. the British Police Doing Their
> Job?
> Reply-To:. Green@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Sun Apr . 7 21:13:30 1996
>
> In. article <DpIE0r.736.0.bloor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> . bu765@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Mike Corley" writes:
>
>>Last Easter (1995) I went into the local police station in London and.
>>spoke to
>>an officer about the harassment against me. But I couldn't. provide
>>tangible
>>evidence;. what people said, in many cases years ago, is beyond proof,
and
>>without something to sup****t my statements I cannot expect a. police
>>officer to
>>take the complaint. seriously.
>
> This in itself dos not suggest that the police have it in. for you. The
> old bill
> operates on extremely tight spending. limits forced on them by that
> pillock Michael
> Howard,. and without evidence, they often have higher priorities than
> chasing something
> that cannot go. to court.
>
> I doubt that the police are actually being leant on,. but they probably
> realise that if
> they looked. into this, they would be leant on hard. The met always
stays
> away from
> anything that. looks like it has Defence, Security or secret service
> interest already,
> because they realise. that they are below these government agencies in
the
> general
> pecking. order.
>
> If. I walked into my local nick and complained that MI5 were snooping on
> me, they would
> show me the door without even looking at my evidence, because that bored
> desk. seargant
> with only five years to go before he retires doesn't. want to start
> ****ing about with
> somebody who has. incurred the wrath of Stella Rimington. He would
rather
> deal with the
> lost dogs and driving licence producers,. eat his cheese and pickle
> sandwiches and piss
> off home at the. end of his ****ft than have some high ranking spook
having
> a go at his
> boss and getting. him a bollocking.
>
> In short, you have earned much sympathy but little surprise. Just
> remember that. saying
> about. the enemy of your enemies.
>
> Most recently, I wrote in March 1999 to Charing Cross Police. Station
> CID. They. did not acknowledge or reply to my letter. When I phoned them
> up,. the detective Id written to treated me to a sadly not unusual
display
> of police bigotry, with an uneducated rant about "your. paranoid
rubbish".
>
> It would be nice to think that such. uneducated bigotry is something
> other
> than wholly typical. of police behaviour, but unfortunately that is an
> illusion that is rapidly. dispelled.
>
> Uncorruptible Jon Snow. of Channel Four News
>
> From previous articles the reader will know what I think. Jon Snow has
> recently been watching me while. he reads Channel Four News in the
> evening. Recently I digitized. a few moments of one such broadcast,
where
> his face twists into a smile, without there being. anything in the news
> broadcast. to cause merriment. Here is a usenet post from some time ago
on
> MI5s. "bought and paid for" tools in the so-called "free" press.
>
>
> Peter Harding. (harding@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) wrote:
> : I was at speakers'. corner on Sunday. There was one chap who was
> bellowing
> : about something or other, I don't know what, but one thing. he said to
> : someone caught. my ear:
>
> : "BBC, MI5, same. thing."
>
> Can't. disagree with that sentiment.
>
> Wasn't it. documented that MI5 sometimes "bought" journalists and
> broadcasters?
> I remember reading a re****t by some jouralist who had. been offered an
> extra
> tax-free income by MI5 to become their covert mouthpiece,. and had
> refused.
>
.............................................................................
>> : >mouthpiece, and had. refused.
>>. :
>> : It was Jon Snow of. Channel 4.
>>
>> Was it re****ted in any of the. papers?
>
> It has been re****ted several. times. The most recent was in Private Eye,
> a few months back. As I recall they also wanted. information from him;
> journalists would be a. natural choice for members of the Security
Service
> and the Secret Intelligence Service for. information sources.
>
>> It might be interesting to see what he had to say. regarding their
>> attempt. to recruit him.
>
> He was most. concerned that many others would have accepted such an
> offer. However, we can probably make an educated guess as to some. of
> those who accepted: Nigel West (Rupert Allason, MP) and. Chapman Pincher
> would come near to the top. of the list.
>
> --
> \/ David Boothroyd. Socialist and election analyst.. Omne ignotum pro
> magnifico.
> British Elections and Politics. at
> http://www.qmw.ac.uk/~laws/election/home.html
> I wish I was in North Dakota. Next General Election must be before 22nd
> May. '97
> The House of Commons now : C 324, Lab 272,. L Dem 25, UU 9, PC 4, SDLP
4,
> SNP 4,
> UDUP 3, Ind 1, Ind UU 1, Spkrs 4. Government majority = 1. Telephone
Tate.
> 6125.
>
> Corrupt Security Service agents steal. millions from taxpayers
>
> Money is of course. a factor in the grand equation which is the MI5
> persecution. It costs. money for the Security Service to "buy" people in
> the media etc. But that is only a small. part of their expenditure of
> taxpayers resources.. Most of the expenditure is directly on the
salaries
> if the agents involved; and in this post I put forward the theory. that
> MI5
> are trying to draw out their involvement for as long. as possible, very
> cynically, to maximise their income. and line their own pockets.
>
> At each. stage they have tried to pretend that I am something out of the
> ordinary.
> Either I was very stupid ("he's an. idiot") or very clever ("he's like a
> genius").
> Either I was a threat to Western civilization. (Levin once referred to
me
> as the next
> Hitler) or I. was completely defenceless ("a soft toy").
>
> Now, it should be. obvious to any person with common-sense that I am not
> out of the
> ordinary in any way. I have an IQ which is. average for the Web, I am
> racially white
> European, and there are plenty of other people with schizophrenia or.
> epilepsy out there
> who haven't been. targeted for MI5 attention, so why me?
>
> I think the answer is that the MI5 agents who harass. me have cynically
> exploited the
> situation by painting me as. extraordinary in order to assure themselves
> of well-paid
> employment funded by the ordinary British taxpayer. To put it. bluntly,
> they are
> stealing millions of pounds. from the taxpayer to feed their own
pockets.
>
> This assertion is sup****ted by the observation that it's the same
agents.
> who are doing
> the harassment. Six months ago in a local hospital I was harassed by
> someone whose. face
> I had. seen (he had stared straight at me aggressively, at the time I
just
> thought it
> was some nutter but it turns out he was one of. "them") aboard a KLM
> flight a couple of
> years ago.. It's presumably been the same people most of the time. I've
> seen the way
> contractors act when they don't want their positions terminated. Would
> these. agents
> really want to lose their well-paid employment harassing. me? Presumably
> they are
> promising their bosses a "breakthrough" (ie my demise) real-soon-now and
> have. been for
> the last seven years, while all the while. these MI5 agents skim
millions
> off. the taxpayer.
>
> I wouldn't mind a job like that. Perhaps if I persecute. myself a little
> bit, like
> standing in front of a. mirror and shouting mindless obscenities, do you
> reckon I'd get
> a slice of the caky Service Tribunal. This year Nick. Brooks, current
> Tribunal Secretary, confirmed to me that he could not. think of a single
> case where the Tribunal had found in favour of a complainant. Here. is
my
> usenet post from two years. ago.
>
> Subject: MI5: "It wasn't. us"
> Newsgroups:. uk.misc,uk.legal
> Organization: Toronto. Free-Net
>
> "The Security Service Tribunal have now investigated. your complaint and
> have
> asked me to inform you that no determination in your favour has been
made.
> on
> your. complaint."
>
> Signed ER. Wilson, Tribunal Secretary
>
> Well that's a relief. then. All that spamming for nothing eh. Gaw
blimey,
> if
> they say they're not. doing it then it can't be them, can it?
>
> In a recent. letter to Mr Brooks I expressed the opinion that the
Tribunal
> were unable to fulfil their responsibilities in the face of. MI5
> falsehoods. Nevertheless, I. do intend to make another complaint to the
> Tribunal in the near future, despite the Tribunal appearing to. be a
> toothless. watchdog.
>
> Discrimination against. a Unit Minority
>
> MI5 have been. very clear in their instructions as to what I should
> do. They. have openly shouted at me the word "suicide", and also from
the
> other abuse it is clear that they want my. existence terminated.
>
> This point. is covered in more detail in a previous article. The
following
> post describes the xenophobic nature. of MI5s campaign against me. They
> have. refined their bigotry down to a unit minority, yet they make use
of
> the discrimination against the. mentally ill which is a feature of
current
> British. society.
>
> Subject: Re: MI5 says. "Kill Yourself"
> Newsgroups:. uk.misc,uk.legal,uk.politics.misc,uk.media
> References:. <zlsiida.4248.3258FE24@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> <53eeev$cmg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Organization: Toronto. Free-Net
> Distribution:
>
> iain@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Iain L. M Hotchkies) wrote:
>>Indeed. If you've. ever had a 'conversation' with someone suffering
>>from florid schizophrenia, you'll know how difficult. it can be to
>>'argue' with. them.
>
> I don't have florid symptoms. But I'm in a difficult situation,. because
> those
> people who don't know, aren't going. to believe, and those who do, they
> just go
> along. with the crowd. It's never a good idea to go against the grain,
and
> the
> grain here is defined by interests. in the establishment and the media.
> Even
> people who could. say out loud what was happening won't, because then
> there's a
> risk that they'll be seen as traitors and. ostracised.
>
> Usually. this type of 'hidden abuse' is racial and targetted at a racial
> minority within a country.. You keep the minorities out of the good
jobs,
> but
> you don't admit discrimination exists. It happens. everywhere, not just
in
> Britain. The persecution that is going on now is in. reality a refined
> form of
> racism. Instead of "nigger". it's "nutter", and abusing the mentally ill
> is
> still socially acceptable today. In 50 years it might not be, but today.
> there
> isn't. any social or legal sanction against it.
>
> So really they've refined racial harassment down to a minority of one..
> The
> words. may be different, but the methods are the same.
>
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