Re: Breton, Cornish & French

In article <B9WdnbGhMJh4klnanZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Chess One
<OneChess@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> "John Cartmell" <john@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:4f750ada8ejohn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > In article <YNKdnT3BNrwXjiPanZ2dnUVZ_rmjnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Chess One
> >   <OneChess@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> There is no evidence whatever that Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare.
> >
> > In your terms: what would constitute 'evidence'. In common parlance
(and
> > academic research) there is plenty of evidence - but you are clearly
more
> > picky.

> Perhaps I should re-emphasise that I am not speculating on Shakespearean
> author****p - but on methodology - and somewhere at the head of these
posts
> remarked that there is not /written/ evidence [which I dare call
> 'normative' for academic] in his own hand of that to inform us.

> Therefore the 'plentiful' evidence is not any form of primary material -
> and is indeed a somewhat mixed bag of second sourcing, suppositions
> [rightly to whatever degree].

There is plenty of primary material.

> So the 'how we know what we know' question is answered in the instance
of
> Shakespeare by saying 'second sourcing of literary material from
> contem****aneous sources'. There are additional materials which contest
the
> degree that Shakespeare wrote anything at all, or to what degree he did.
It
> is not necessary to believe anything about this subject in order to note
> that varieties of opinion exist.

What would *you* call primary material as to the author****p of the plays?

> Since these messages include a Cornish newsgroup, it is pertinent to
> mention that Conrishman A. L. Rowse was [perhaps?] the principal
> Elizabethan scholar of the immediately preceding decade at Oxford, and
> author of some half dozen Shakespearean commentaries - and a frim
> 'Stratfordian'. Yet even Rowse speculated that for LLL, the principal
hand
> in that was not Shakespeare but Bacon - since he saw in it something of
a
> refutation of Euro Roscicrucianism; a certain sterility, which was
> somewhat relieved by the arrival of les femmes.

That is secondary material that I would certainly discard as of little
value
(sorry Cornwall!).

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