Yes good front eh?
You would think they are both losers serving customers during "All; you
can
eat buffets."
But, they are really super-dooper spies from MI5
You would never suspect that would you.. see it even fooled you.
"Ronald Moshki" <sector_fart@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:d9aa42d5-9271-4682-ba57-36b3cdece2d4@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
much of a sleuth, are you?
ITLee and Abianchen are both illegal immigrants working as waiters in
Chink restaurants and hiding from the U.S. authorities.
On Dec 26, 2:17 am, "Chairman Mao Says:"
<liberal...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> I am MI5 and I am still watching YOU!
>
> We have a list of secret agents, we are all watching you
>
> BitterAnklo = Japan agent in Osaka
> lt Lee - CCP PLA type from China and North Carolina
> BaldEagle - Hawaii office to Singa****e
> Supertech= Korea to Texas field office
> Abian Chen= Taiwan to NY
> L. Alpert = Jewish plant/ in CT.
> Susan Cohen our head UK MI5 office head.
>
> YES we are all watching YOU!
>
>
>
> <ivm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in messagenews:bi0711260852244700@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > MI5. Persecution Update: Friday 30 April, 1999
>
> > If. You Intend To Reply, Please Read This
> > Please.... keep your response to one page!.. Faxes over a page or two
> > will
> > be deleted without being. read.
>
> > Somewhere. between 0 and 100%
>
> > The last few days there have been no clear. recordable instances of
> > abuse. However, while. travelling on the Underground, while walking
> > around
> > near my home and. going to friends homes, I am constantly troubled by
> > thoughts that those people. over there might be about to get at me;
that
> > the couple sitting in the opposite. seats laughing are in fact
laughing
> > at
> > me; et cetera,. et cetera.
>
> > A comment by a scientist to the BSE inquiry sticks. in my mind. He
> > described. the possible scale of the epidemic as "between 0% and
100%".
> > It
> > might not be happening, it might not happen at all,. to any
discernable
> > degree.... or it might be total.. Without clear recording, which seems
> > to
> > have become impossible the. last couple of weeks, there is no way of
> > knowing whether the harassment really is continuing, whether we. have
> > entered a tem****ary hiatus, or whether perhaps it has perhaps stopped.
> > for
> > now.
>
> > But for the time being I think there arent any reasons to dicontinue.
> > these
> > faxes. I only re-started them six. weeks ago in response to a
resumption
> > of
> > MI5 harassment; and I think I will need to be more. convinced of
absence
> > of
> > persecution. before I discontinue my complaints.
>
> > The Newscasters are. still watching
>
> > In the last few weeks there have been at least a couple. of fairly
overt
> > instances of "interactive watching" by newscasters. I re****ted this.
in
> > a
> > previous "MI5. Persecution Update".
>
> > These instances are really very. rare compared to 1990-91, when there
> > were
> > many. dozens of such occurrences. Undoubtedly the reduction is due to
my
> > practice of videotaping everything I see. Recently. I had the
> > op****tunity
> > of showing this years. "happenings" (Jon Snow/Nicholas Witchell) to my
> > psychiatrist, and he. agreed that in both cases the newscasters were
> > expressing merriment. without visible cause, and that objectively it
> > might
> > be possible for. my claims to be true - although of course other
people
> > re****ted similar thoughts to him, and this thinking is. usually a
> > symptom
> > of. illness.
>
> > Read About the MI5. Persecution on the World Wide Web
>
> > The March 1998 issue (number 42). of .net Magazine reviews the website
> > describing it as an. "excellent site". Since August 11, 1996 over
50,000
> > people have browsed. this website.
>
> > You are encouraged to read. the web pages which include
>
> > a FAQ (frequently. asked questions) section outlining the nature of
the
> > persecutors, their methods of harassment through the media,. people at
> > work
> > and among the. general public
>
> > an evidence section, which carries audio and. video clips of media and
> > workplace harassment, rated according to how directly I think. they
> > refer
> > to me
>
> > objective. descriptions of the state security agencies involved
>
> > scanned texts of. the complaints I have made to media and state
security
> > agencies. involved
>
> > posts which have been made to netnews over the last four. years on
this
> > topic
>
> > Keith Hill MP (Labour - Streatham), my elected. representative, as
ever
> > refuses. to help.
>
> > MI5 Waste Taxpayer Millions. on Pointless Hate-Campaign
>
> > Recently. I was talking to an independent observer about the nature
and
> > purpose. of the perceived campaign of persecution against me. The
person
> > I
> > spoke to, a highly intelligent man, said he was struck by. the utter
> > pointlessness of the perceived campaign against me.. He also said
that,
> > if
> > my theories were in fact true, many people. would have to be involved,
> > in
> > the surveillance itself, and. in the technical side of the delivery of
> > information from my home to TV studios for. example, if the
"interactive
> > watching" were happening as described. He voiced these thoughts.
without
> > any prompting from me; but. both I and other observers had arrived at
> > pretty much the same conclusions, some years. ago.
>
> > I saw a team of four men at Toronto. Air****t in 1993
>
> > To. carry out the surveillance alone, full-time, would employ four or
> > five
> > men,. or their equivalent in terms of man-hours. Each man would "work"
> > an
> > eight-hour ****ft, so you would need at least three men. doing the
> > surveillance, plus a. connecting link / manager. An indicator that
this
> > estimate is. correct arrived in 1993, when I was accosted by one of a
> > group
> > of four men at Toronto Air****t; he said, laughing, "if he tries to.
run
> > away well find him".. Plainly these were the men who had been involved
> > in
> > the intrusive surveillance of me for the preceding. three years.
>
> > On other occasions, I have seen the same man on. two or three
occasions.
> > On
> > one such occasion, at Ottawas Civic Hospital in November. 1996; he
gave
> > his
> > name to the doctor as. "Alan Holdsworth" or some such; my hearing is
not
> > very good sometimes and I. am not sure of the surname, although I am
> > sure
> > "Alan" was his first name. I saw exactly the same man again. in
Ottawa,
> > at
> > the air****t, in. July 1998. Obviously, other people must be "working"
> > with
> > this person; he would not be. the sole agent employed in this case.
>
> > Usenet readers views on the. Cost to MI5 of Running the Campaign
>
> > Here's what a couple of other people on. internet newsgroups / Usenet
> > (uk.misc) had to say regarding the cost of running. such an
operation...
>
> > PO: >Have some sense, grow. up and smell reality. What you are talking
> > about
> > PO: >would take loads of planning, tens of thousands of pounds and.
lots
> > of
> > PO: >people involved. in the planning, execution and maintenance of
it.
> > You
> > PO: >must have a very high opinion of yourself to think. you are worth
> > it.
>
> > and......
>
> > PM: >But why? And why you? Do you. realize how much it would cost to
> > keep
> > PM: >one person under continuous surveillance for. five years? Think
> > about
> > PM: >all the man/hours. Say they _just_ allocated a two man team and.
a
> > PM: >supervisor. OK.,. Supervisor's salary, say, #30,000 a year. Two
> > men,
> > PM: >#20,000. a year each. But they'd need to work in ****fts -- so it
> > would
> > PM: >be six men at #20,000 (which. with on-costs would work out at
more
> > like
> > PM: >#30,000 to the. employer.)
> > PM:. >
> > PM: >So,. we're talking #30,000 x 6. #180,000. plus say, #40,000 for
the
> > PM: >supervisor. #220,000. Then. you've got the hardware involved. And
> > PM: >any transcription that needs doing. You don't think the. 'Big
Boss'
> > PM: >would listen to hours. and hours of tapes, do you.
> > PM:. >
> > PM: >So, all in all, you couldn't. actually do the job for much less
> > than
> > PM: >a quarter million a year. Over five. years. What are you doing
that
> > makes
> > PM: >it worth the while of the state to spend over. one and a quarter
> > million
> > PM: >on. you?
>
> > Those are pretty. much the sort of calculations that went through my
> > head
> > once I. stopped to consider what it must be costing them to run this
> > operation.. At the very least, a quarter million a year - and probably
> > much
> > more, given the intrusive and human-resource-intensive. methods
> > employed. Times nine years. Equals well over two million pounds -. and
> > probably much,. much more.
>
> > Its wasteful. for someone with my skills to be unemployed
>
> > The wastefulness of the MI5 campaign. against me is not just that of
> > futile
> > expenditure on their side. It is also extremely. wasteful for someone
> > with
> > my talents to be unemployed and on a. disability pension. I am highly
> > qualified in numerate disciplines, yet am. unable to work,
specifically
> > because of the MI5 hate-campaign against. me. It is a terrible waste
of
> > resources for a. supposedly efficient economy like that of the UK to
be
> > squandering the talents of a skilled and capable. worker.
>
> > I made every effort to remain in employment for as long as I. could,
but
> > ultimately I was defeated by MI5s. employment of massive resources
> > specifically targeted on my workplaces with the sole. aim of seeing me
> > evicted from those workplaces.. You might expect this sort of
behaviour
> > from the Stasi or some. other secret police force in a communist
country
> > where labour is cheap, and. the governments aim on seeing its citizens
> > confined; but for a supposedly free and. efficient economy like
> > Britains,
> > the wastefulness resulting both directly and. indirectly from the
> > Security
> > Services activities. is simply criminal, and should never be allowed.
>
> > The international dimension means. the costs are multiplied many times
> > overoer. had any sense, then they have surely taken leave of them over
> > the
> > last nine. years.
>
> > Four. years of persecution in Canada
>
> > The persecution re-started within less than five minutes. of my
arrival
> > in
> > Canada, as do***ented above, and in the. "frequently asked
> > questions" article on the website. The words, "if he tries to run.
away
> > well find him". spoken by one of the harassers at Toronto Air****t are
> > now
> > imprinted on my. mind.
>
> > A year later I emigrated to Canada, intending to find a. job and
settle
> > there, hoping. that MI5s interest in me might dim with time. I did
> > manage
> > to find work there, but my hopes of avoiding Security. Service
interest
> > were ground into dust. As detailed. above, I saw the same man in
> > November
> > 1996 and July 1998,. both times in Ottawa. Apart from these
encounters,
> > there were numerous incidents between 1994 and. 1998 of harassment, of
> > an
> > identical nature and in. most cases using identical words to what had
> > occurred in the UK. It became quite clear to me. that the permanent
> > surveillance. and harassment operation which MI5 had subjected me to
in
> > England was being. continued.
>
> > For a team of four or five. men to be employed overseas must cost a
lot
> > more than. if they operate in their home country. And for MI5 to
> > continue
> > the operation for a period of over four years, continuously, must.
cost
> > many hundreds of thousands of. pounds. This confirms my belief that
the
> > state. is funding the campaign against mehat the Security Service
> > receives
> > current annual funding of #160M. Divided by 1850 staff, works out. at
> > #86,000. But the unit annual cost of each "watcher" must be. much
higher
> > than this, especially given the frequently. mobile and overseas nature
> > of
> > their actions of the. last few years. A very conservative figure might
> > be
> > a
> > little over. #100,000 pa for each of a team of five people, or half a
> > million pounds per year. For nine years, so far. So the. most
> > conservative
> > estimate of the surveillance element alone is perhaps four. or five
> > million
> > pounds. since 1990.
>
> > This guesstimate. is of course theoretical - I am not privy to inside
> > details of how. MI5 split their funding. But to take some other
> > examples,
> > the cost of a US counter-surveillance specialist per. day is USD
> > 5,000. Even if the agents permanently assigned to me. are not of this
> > calibre -. even if they employ specialists when difficult work
planting
> > bugs etc is. encountered - their salary and sup****t costs must still
be
> > very high. The individual agents are doing well for themselves as
they.
> > are
> > well-paid to. exercise psychopathic instincts which in any sane
society
> > would see them in prison; but the taxpayers who must. fund this
terribly
> > wasteful exercise. are being "done" out of hundreds of thousands of
> > pounds
> > each. year.
>
> > It must be emphasised that the. above estimates are highly
> > conservative. Besides. the surveillance operation, it must carry a
high
> > cost in man-hours to propagate. covert slanders through the
population;
> > to
> > setup and maintain the "interactive watching" links to. TV and radio
> > stations, which these organisations continue. desparately to "lie and
> > deny"; and to induce antipathy in co-workers which would not.
otherwise
> > exist.
>
> > Why they are wasting Millions of Pounds. on a "Nobody from South
London"
>
> > As remarked in the prologue to this article, it is. really most
> > extraordinary that the Security Service spends a. chunk of its budget,
> > every year for nine years so. far, on a meaningless campaign against a
> > "nobody from South London". That they are spending such a large.
amount
> > of
> > money has been confirmed to me. on several occasions, usually by
oblique
> > references to "its costing this. country millions". The supposed
> > "logic" behind the persecution is. that MI5 wish to avoid their
> > harassment
> > of me, and the involvement of the UK media, to be made public; yet. as
> > the
> > reader will appreciate that is a circular argument, "theyre doing. it
> > because they want. to keep it secret and avoid humiliation for
> > themselves
> > and their country" begs. the question, "why did they start doing it in
> > the
> > first place?", to which in truth I myself do not know. the answer.
>
> > Plainly MI5 with its rich budget can afford half a million. pounds a
> > year
> > to waste on a "nobody from South London".. Some time ago I was talking
> > to
> > a
> > British surveillance professional on Compuserve who told me. "this
work
> > costs a lot of money. and is usally because the person I am following
> > has
> > done something (usually criminal) to warrant all this. money and time
> > being
> > spent." Yet. in this particular case it is plainly not the "victims
> > fault" that the harassment. is taking place. The hate-campaign against
> > me
> > is completely the creation of the obsessive psychologies of the. MI5
> > agents
> > who have. made themselves my persecutors; it is obviously a
> > "personal" campaign for. them, and for years they misuse taxpayer
> > funding
> > to feed their insane, unnatural. and fixated fantasies.
>
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