fred@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On Saturday 02 February 2008 19:07, PL wrote:
>
>> fred@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>> On Saturday 02 February 2008 03:17, PL wrote:
>>>
>>>> Freedom in Cuba? Not likely
>>>> www.minotdailynews.com
>>>>
>>>> Far too much optimism regarding the future of Cuba has been
>>>> expressed because of the uncertain state of longtime dictator Fidel
>>>> Castro's health. It appears that even if the Comandante agrees to
>>>> turn over the reins of power, or dies, hardline communism will
>>>> remain as a cloud over Cuba.
>>>>
>>> It can't "remain" because it doesn't exist at present. What
>>> Cuba has
>>> is "socialism."
>>>
>>>> It's too bad, because more freedom in the country could be good news
>>>> for North Dakota producers, who have in the past sent ****pments of
>>>> peas, lentils and other products to Cuba. Perhaps that market would
>>>> expand if given the chance.
>>>>
>>> The need for grains in Cuba is independent of the politicals
>>> system.
>>>
>>>> But so pervasive is the cult of personality ? and fear ? involving
>>>> Castro that no one even dares to suggest change in Cuba. Evidence of
>>>> that came recently, when Cubans trooped to the polls for an
>>>> "election."
>>>>
>>> There is no fear of Castro, (either one), the people adore
>>> Fidel.
>>>
>>>> Balloting was held to select members of the National Assembly,
>>>> through which the country's top leaders, the Council of State, are
>>>> chosen. Castro has headed the Council for many years.
>>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>> Government officials claimed that 95 percent of registered voters
>>>> went to the polls. We don't doubt that. Cubans who don't want to get
>>>> into trouble make it a point to do what the Communist Party tells
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>> When your vote counts, it's encouraging to go to the polls.
>>> When you
>>> know the election is dependant on voting machines manufactured by a
>>> company tied to the Republicans and they keep winning despite being
>>> terribly unpopular, you figure, "Why bother to vote."
>>>
>>>> They were given no choice. Election ballots contained more than 600
>>>> names of "candidates" for the Assembly ? but there was only one for
>>>> each post to be filled. The nominees had been chosen in advance by
>>>> party officials. Voters could only vote for them ? or, for those
>>>> willing to take chances, not vote at all.
>>>>
>>> You're speaking of pure fantasy.
>>>
>>>> Even if Castro for any reason drops out of power, a veteran cadre of
>>>> Community Party leaders will step in to take his place. That leaves
>>>> little reason for optimism among Cubans who for decades have longed
>>>> for freedom.
>>>>
>>> Cuba has more real freedom than the U.S. has ever had.
>> not according to HRW, amnesty ... and all people than don't have a
>> dogmatic handicap like you.
>> Cubans aren't even allowed to freely leave the country.
>>
> Yes they are. They can leave any time they want to.
a lie.
see: http://www.cubaverdad.net/freedom_of_movement.htm
all data confirmed by Human Rights Watch in their 2008 re****t
Travel Restrictions and Family Separations
The Cuban government forbids the country's citizens from leaving or
returning to Cuba without first obtaining official permission, which
is often denied. Unauthorized travel can result in criminal
prosecution. In May 2006 Oswaldo Payá, the well known Cuban human
rights advocate, was awarded an honorary doctor of laws by Columbia
University in New York City in recognition of his work. However, he
was denied an exit visa by the Cuban authorities and could not receive
the degree in person.
The government also frequently bars citizens engaged in authorized
travel from taking their children with them overseas, essentially
holding the children hostage to guarantee the parents' return. Given
the widespread fear of forced family separation, these travel
restrictions provide the Cuban government with a powerful tool for
puni****ng defectors and silencing critics.
http://hrw.org/englishwr2k8/docs/2008/01/31/cuba17767.htm
Thanks for again showing so clearly you are no more than a dogmatic liar.
PL
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