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Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge"

by Dan Christensen <dchris@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 3, 2008 at 01:24 PM

On Apr 2, 1:12 am, PL <pl.nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

[snipping ****tions of PL's posting already debunked here, or too lame
to bother with]

> >>>>> Do you deny this now? Will you
> >>>>> finally confirm that the average Cuban gets only about one quarter
of
> >>>>> his or her food intake from the rationing system?
> >>>> they only get a quarter of what they need comradeDan.
> >>> From the rationing system, you mean. They rest they get from various
> >>> markets.
> >> Nope.
>
> > A blatant lie, as we see from your own posting last year:
>
> > "Under the communist country's 45-year-old universal ration system,
> > Cubans get a heavily subsidized monthly food basket of beans, rice,
> > potatoes, eggs, a little meat and other goods. That, along with other
> > subsidized meals such as workplace lunches, provides about two-thirds
> > of the 3,300 calories the government estimates Cubans eat daily.
>
> She gives the "government estimates" comradeDan.
> we all know they aren't very reliable.

[snip]

A veteran Cuba re****ter with AP, Snow doesn't question this estimate.
She is in a very good position to *****s whether Cubans are not
getting enough food. And there is not a hint in her series of in-depth
articles on this topic that this is the case. After all your hard
work, I know it must piss you off, Mr. Lobbyist!


> Note also that this only applies to those that work. Others don't get
> any "subsidized lunches".

The 2/3 figure is an average, of course. Contrary to you lies,
however, at no time does Snow suggest there is a serious food deficit
in Cuba. But you would know this if you any local knowledge. Once
again , it seems your briefing notes have let you down, Mr. Lobbyist.
Maybe you should actually spend some time in Cuba. Not even a casual
tourist would make the kind of mistakes you are making here.

>
> > "Cubans use their salaries and any other income to buy the rest of
> > their food at farmers markets and overpriced supermarkets or through
> > black market purchases and trades."
>
> > Source: Anita Snow, "Cubans go to street to augment rations," AP June
> > 2007
>
>
>http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/2007/06/12/cub...
>
> Some other quotes from the same article: (this part actually comes
> immediately before the selected quoteDanposted)
> She said she often eats for less money at the university cafeteria, but
> the food there isn't as good as at the privately run Pizza Celina.
>
> "This is a bit expensive for us but we come when we can," she said. A
> recent increase in the monthly government stipend for students, from 20
> to 50 pesos (about $1 to $2.50), means she can now afford to visit the
> pizzeria once a month.
>
> Laura lives on the other side of Havana, and it's impractical to go home
> to eat. There are few nearby places to buy cheap food, save for a nearly
> empty state-run vegetarian restaurant. "I've never gone in there," Laura
> says.
>
> The only thing close to a fast-food chain in Cuba is the state-run
> Rapidito or the food counter at Cupet gas stations, which both sell hot
> dogs and fried chicken most Cubans cannot afford because they are priced
> in the "convertible pesos" used by foreigners.
>
> Government workers are paid in regular pesos, which trade at about 24 to
> the convertible peso or 21 to the U.S. dollar. A Rapidito hot dog at 1
> convertible peso costs more than a day's pay for a Cuban earning a
> typical monthly salary of 350 pesos ($16.60).
>
> the article continues:
>
> A teenage boy at a weathered wooden cart asks 2 pesos for "granizados,"
> small plastic cups of ice drizzled with strawberry-flavored syrup.
> Another vendor sells homemade popcorn in plastic bags for 3 pesos.
>
> Many street vendors are licensed, and the government runs storefront
> stands selling pizzas, hot dogs and ****k burgers for 10 pesos. And
> government stands offer a cold glass of "guarapo," or sugar cane juice,
> for 1 peso.
>
> Similar foods are sold at Obispo's "tencen" -- poorly stocked government
> shops that evolved from American-style five-and-ten stores of the 1950s
> and whose nickname is an adaptation of "10 cents."
>
> The "tencen" are among the few places Cubans can buy food and other
> items in the national currency they earn. The shops also have lunch
> counters serving fried chicken or ****k steak and a bakery offering
> sugary cookies.
>
> Then there is the "frozzen," a 1-peso cone filled with a smooth, cold
> vanilla mixture with a synthetic taste -- a snack sold at the "tencen"
> and government storefront windows.
>
> Just a block away, a convertible peso store sells im****ted frozen treats
> made from dairy products most Cubans cannot afford. There, the Nestle's
> Crunch chocolate ice cream bar is 1.10 convertible pesos -- about 26
> regular pesos, or $1.20.
>
[snip]

What's your point? Nothing here sup****ts your claim that there is a
serious food deficit in Cuba.  But thanks for confirming your complete
lack of local knowledge.  What a loser!

Dan
Visit my CUBA: Issues & Answers website at
http://www.netcom.ca/~dchris/CubaFAQ.html
 




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Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims internet a
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-29 00:04:45 
Poor Pathetic Lobbyist...
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-03-29 13:33:15 
Re: Poor Pathetic pathological LIAR Danny Christensen
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-29 20:47:38 
Re: Poor Pathetic Kennykins...
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-03-30 05:40:27 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-30 15:04:06 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-30 14:56:25 
Re: Poor Pathetic LYING DAN CHRISTENSEN
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-30 14:35:07 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-30 15:08:19 
Re: Poor Pathetic Lobbyist...
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-03-30 07:48:25 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-30 23:33:00 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-03-30 07:51:58 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-30 15:06:37 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-30 23:34:53 
PL's same tired old lies and evasions...
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-03-30 07:54:57 
Re: Outrageous lies and slander from Dan Christensen exposed
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-30 23:38:06 
Re: Poor Pathetic Kennykins...
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-03-30 08:07:02 
Re: Poor Pathetic DAN CHRISTENSEN LIAR!!!!!
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-30 15:17:51 
Re: Poor Pathetic LYING DAN CHRISTENSEN
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-30 23:25:20 
Re: Poor Pathetic Kennykins...
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-03-30 09:57:06 
Re: Poor Pathetic LYING CHRISTENSEN
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-30 17:50:29 
Re: A blatant lie by Mr. Chistensen
chris <christiane.stoc  2008-03-30 10:02:29 
Re: A blatant lie by Mr. Chistensen ONE OF MANY
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-30 17:31:52 
Re: A blatant lie by Mr. Chistensen
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-03-30 10:21:39 
Re: A blatant lie by Mr. Chistensen
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-30 17:34:38 
Re: A blatant lie by Mr. Chistensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-30 23:39:22 
Re: A blatant lie by Mr. Chistensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-30 23:41:48 
Re: A blatant lie by Mr. Chistensen
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-30 23:52:44 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-31 16:33:44 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-31 15:28:01 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
"PL" <pl.nos  2008-03-31 18:14:04 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-31 23:57:33 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge"
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-04-04 21:01:10 
Re: Comrade Christensen's delusions
" krp" <krp2  2008-04-05 04:04:13 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-05 11:35:15 
Re: Poor Pathetic Lobbyist...
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-03-31 12:23:13 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-03-31 23:06:46 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge" a sham
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-04-07 20:32:24 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-08 06:40:04 
Re:Danny Christensen and his hatred for the Cuban People
" krp" <krp2  2008-04-08 08:06:30 
Re: Poor Pathetic bullshitting Canadian Stalinist
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-31 23:31:12 
Re: ANOTHER DANNY LIE - WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE HOTEL?
" krp" <krp2  2008-03-31 23:31:12 
Re: ANOTHER DANNY LIE - WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE HOTEL?
"PL" <pl.nos  2008-04-01 02:19:53 
Re: ANOTHER DANNY LIE - WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE HOTEL?
" krp" <krp2  2008-04-01 06:59:27 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
"PL" <pl.nos  2008-04-01 02:16:56 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
"PL" <pl.nos  2008-04-01 02:58:40 
Re: Poor Pathetic Lobbyist....
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-03-31 21:55:23 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-01 12:45:31 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge" a sham
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-04-07 21:56:16 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-08 09:42:50 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge"
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-04-01 09:12:20 
Re: Outrageous lies from Dan Christensen: today he claims intern
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-01 18:45:51 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge" a sham
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-04-08 15:26:51 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-09 00:39:55 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-01 18:47:49 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge"
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-04-01 14:11:48 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-02 08:12:54 
Re: Dan Christensen and his lies
" krp" <krp2  2008-04-02 09:39:08 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-02 09:42:51 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge"
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-04-03 13:24:57 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge"
" krp" <krp2  2008-04-03 21:15:48 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-04 01:16:25 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
" krp" <krp2  2008-04-04 00:11:14 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-04 11:56:22 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
" krp" <krp2  2008-04-04 10:08:58 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-04 12:13:43 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
" krp" <krp2  2008-04-04 10:32:24 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge"
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-04-03 15:01:28 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-04 01:16:12 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge"
" krp" <krp2  2008-04-04 00:16:45 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge"
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-04-03 15:05:58 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-04 01:17:41 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge"
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-04-03 19:19:46 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-04 11:39:42 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge"
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-04-03 19:45:45 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-04 11:45:53 
Re: PL's supposed "local knowledge"
Dan Christensen <dchri  2008-04-04 13:39:13 
Re: PL's acknowledged local knowledge - even by Dan Christensen
PL <pl.nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-04 22:42:49 

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